In message <s5448624.039@mitsuicomtek.com> "Derek Daily" writes: > (Phil P. probably knows of which I'm speaking...may be std on his > passat?) Nah - I've got nasty steel things with cheap plastic caps. -- Phil Payne Phone: 0385 302803 Fax: 01536 723021 (The contents of this post will _NOT_ appear in the UK Newsletter.)