RE: Reproduction (aka slip, sliding away)...

[Eaton Dave <dave.eaton@minedu.govt.nz>]

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> 
> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 1998 13:54:34 -0400 (EDT)
> From: audidudi@mindspring.com (Jeffrey J. Goggin)
 
[snip]

> >jeff i find this really interesting, you've been practicing...and now
you
> >can create the problem on demand.
> 
> Well, perhaps not EVERY time but certainly more times than not...
> 
[snip]

> >i guess the other question is whether other drivers with different
driving
> >habits used your test vehicle in the same way that you do, to
reproduce this
> >effect, do they have the same results?
> 
> I don't know ... nobody else has ever driven my 200q at speed.
> 
> >i'm just interested to know since you can now produce the unwanted
> >effect at will. maybe you could describe how it is done.
> 
> Simple.  You drive up to a corner flat-out; brake hard then trail off
the
> brakes through the first third of the corner as you turn-in, then get
back
> on the throttle hard as you reach the apex.  The car understeers up to
the
> point where I start getting back on the throttle and, more times than
not,
> the back end steps out sideways.  If I lift out of the throttle, it'll
spin;
> if I plant my foot to the floor, it'll either correct itself and
resume
> understeering again through the corner exit or I'll end up driving
over the
> apex to the inside of the corner.

once again, comments about 7/10ths on a dry road make me smile.  *flat
out* into the corner and brake *hard*....

needless to say i guess, i have repeated this manouever in both my
chassis a number of times (once with the 'so' in the car which was a
*big* mistake), and each time get an oversteering, awd drift -once with
an optional scream for good measure ;-) .  however, lifting off at that
moment, and at the speed this manouever is accomplished, would seem to
me to be a death wish.  if my brain told my right foot to do this, i'm
afraid that my right foot just plain wouldn't.  do you seriously expect
the car to recover from a throttle lift at this?  seriously?

dave
'95 rs2
'90 ur-q