Got that %*(#er!! I Dremeled (a new word!) a couple of new sides on the nut, and could then get it with a pair of visegrips. I had to really crank those visegrips, though, especially since they were the smallest ones I could find. Now...Now it's time to go to work. brooks [ brooks@frii.com '89.5 200Q @ 1.8 bar for summertime]