FW: Drunken Driving Thread

["Hussey, Dan" <husseyd@rayovac.com>]

Doug,

Loved your speech!  I consider myself a libretarian, so I am more
concerned with protecting my rights, than making new laws, which in most
cases, infringe on those rights.

I do occasionally drink a few brews and drive home.  Not everyone wants
to spend the night under a bar stool and we need to go home.  But, I do
not drive drunk!  That, I think is the main difference.  And, if you
decrease the legal alcohol limit to .000000001089 than you are just
going to put me behind bars and the guy who's at 2.09 is still on the
road.  I've said it once, and I'll say it again...it's not right!

I believe you can do anything you want, just as long as it doesn't
infringe upon my rights.  Drunk drivers definately do this, and take
away other people's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of
happiness.

Ben Franklin is among my favorites, and a true American hero!

Later,
Dan
(Sorry for lack of Audi content)

> ----------
> From: 	Douglas Hurst Quebbeman[SMTP:dougq@iglou.com]
> Sent: 	Thursday, July 09, 1998 11:36 AM
> To: 	quattro@coimbra.ans.net
> Subject: 	Drunken Driving Thread
> 
> I'm surprised Dan hasn't yet called for a stop to this
> Audi-content-less
> thread. But, since he hasn't, I'm going to go ahead and comment.
> 
> Most of the comments so far seem basically rational- if a drunken
> driver
> has an accident, and <X> happens as a result, then <Z> should be done
> to
> the drunk driver. Not a very Christian attitude, I must say, but
> rational.
> 
> Some other comments have just been ridiculous, along the lines of
> "hang 'em
> whether they've had an accident or not."
> 
> At the central core of these remarks seems to be a push on the part of
> many
> for an increase in their personal feelings of safety and security. But
> each
> time I hear this clarion call, it always seems to be coming at the
> expense of
> someone else's liberty.
> 
> During my sober 4th weekend, I celebrated American Independency in a
> way that
> has become traditional for me- watching the musical "1776". While
> doing so, I
> once again heard Benjamin Franklin's famous remark:
> 
>    "Those who would sacrifice a little liberty for a little security
>      deserve neither security nor liberty."
> 
> And that's where I stand. One lister lost a fiancee, another almost
> lost one.
> I'm sure the heartbreaks go on and on. I'm sorry, but...
> 
> I'd put my life on the line in an instant to try to save the life of
> another 
> person. But I'm not willing to sacrifice any amount of liberty for
> anything
> less than saving the life of every U.S. citizen. So I could
> (grudgingly) accept
> a curtailment of liberty under martial law- bu not for any other
> reason.
> 
> But not to fight drunk drivers, not to fight the drug war, not to
> fight gang 
> violence. There simply are no threats in our world today that justify
> dumping
> the Bill of Rights into the shitcan.
> 
> And when I stop on the way home tonight and drink a *single* beer
> before 
> completing my journey, I am not going to feel guilty about it in any
> way.
> 
> "Somebody better open up the window..."         -Doug Q
> --
> -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (dougq@iglou.com)       [Call me "Doug"]
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