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Steve, I think any good key and lock shop that does a lot of foreign cars could make such
keys for you. Santa Monica Lock down in LaLa Land used to do that for us. I`m sure there
are locksmiths in the Palo Alto-San Jose corridor that can do it. You need to ask any
old, established  European specialty  shop where they get their`s done.
Probably find some old, barely intelligible German guy huddled over a key machine in some
dark cranny in Mountain View  who can knock it out in  a few minutes. Good luck, John.
Remember, the other crazies , the Porsche ones, gather this Sunday at Carlson.

quattro-digest wrote:

> quattro-digest         Monday, July 27 1998         Volume 04 : Number 2546
>
> *
> *  Welcome to the digest version of the quattro list.
> *  See the end of the digest for unsubscribe info.
> *  In this issue:
> Re: oh well!(kaboom)
> a q-list thank you (Re: Stranded in W.V.)
> 4K Steering linkage
> Ordering Keys from code number?
> re: Subject: Food for thought (Re: UFO Brake Conversion)
> Re: A4tq Avant!
> 1990 COUPE QUATTRO
> Eksten Autoworks in Rochester, NY
> thumps and explosions in the night
> smelly boot (trunk)
> Re: Cameraderie
> FW:You might be a racer if...
> RE: Good looking A3
> Re: Eksten Autoworks in Rochester, NY
> in search of... badges
> Source for V8 relay
> Re: Ordering Keys from code number?
> A4 fuel gauge Qs
> Re: A4 fuel gauge Qs
> Re: oh well!(kaboom) - a boring excursion into physics of Kinematic
> Ur-Q in EC
> sunroof seal
> RE: Good looking A3
> Re: Tires and wheels for my 4kq
> Sway bar bushings for 4k
> religion and Audis ....       RE: The ULTIMATE cure for those Quattro blues
> V6 Timing belt/Water Pump replacement
> Re: UPDATE: Stranded in Charleston, WV
> <All>Towing Note
> New Address
> wrc in the rain
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:15:01 -0700
> From: "Ken Keith" <keith@specialdevices.com>
> Subject: Re: oh well!(kaboom)
>
> Brett Dikeman <brett@pdikeman.ne.mediaone.net> wrote:
> >
> > The drummer from Aerosmith had his Ferrari go up in smoke at a gas
> > station on the Cape.
> >
> > Seriously...I once had to walk over to someone's minivan and ask them to
> > shut off their car before I would fuel my car.  The lady waiting in the
> > passenger seat looked at me like I was from mars.  I camly pointed to the
> > sign saying in big, red letters, "SHUT OFF VEHICLE" and explained that I
> > did not feel like exploding today.
> >
> > Seems people do this all the time without thinking; it's _NOT_ safe...
>
> I once saw someone smoking while gassing up her vehicle.  Amazing.
>
> Ken
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 16:13:11 -0400
> From: "Michael & Christine" <mlindner@netquest.com>
> Subject: a q-list thank you (Re: Stranded in W.V.)
>
> I'd like to thank everyone who called Christine to make sure everything was in
> working order and recommend a repair shop.  Thankfully, the repair was a simple
> one and she's back on the road (currently in Akron, OH).
>
> Hopefully, the string and bubblegum will hold long enough for her to make it
> home!  <VBG>
>
> Michael
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 16:30:56 -0400
> From: "Brinkmann, Gerardo V" <brinkg@uf4124p01.BheightsNJ.ncr.com>
> Subject: 4K Steering linkage
>
>                 I have just completed the conversion of a turbo engine into
> my 4000Q rally car and found out
>                 this past week-end that the Urq steering linkage I purchased
> does not fit the 4000Q strut housing.
>                 I believe there is a company in Texas (?), that will take a
> standard 4000Q steering linkage and
>                 bend it to fit round the turbo.
>                 Does anybody know of their name or Tel # ?
>
>                 Changing the strut housing to a UrQ or a 5000 is not an
> option, as I have converted the standard
>                 4000Q struts to coil-overs.
>
>                 Thanks
>                 gerry
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:31:59 -0700
> From: "Buchholz, Steven" <Steven.Buchholz@kla-tencor.com>
> Subject: Ordering Keys from code number?
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to obtain a set of keys
> for an Audi based on the keycode.  I did contact a dealer who told me that
> they simply duplicate a key that you have ... this does not solve my
> problem, as I'd like to be able to have a valet key ...
>
> I did not get the key code tag with the car, but when I pulled the trunk
> lock cylinder I noticed that the key code was stamped into it ...
>
> TIA!
> Steve Buchholz
> San Jose, CA (USA)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 16:54:07 EDT
> From: C1J1Miller@aol.com
> Subject: re: Subject: Food for thought (Re: UFO Brake Conversion)
>
> Luis wrote:
> - ------------
> Could the reason for UFO brake warping/overheating be inherent to their
> UFO design?  Any rotor has to be able to perform two duties: absorb heat
> when braking, and getting rid of it afterwards.  The first part the
> UFO's must do quite well, since they have good mass (heavy!) and swept
> area, but I don't think they are very efficient at getting rid of the
> heat.
> - ------------
> According to the Audi documentation produced when they intro'd the UFOs, one
> of their advantages was control of heat produced during braking; also, the BBS
> rims used with the '91 200q and V8 was supposed to increase airflow across the
> brakes.  The rotors are vented, as are the rotor "hats".  There are also brake
> vents on the nose of the car directing air to the rotors.
> Chris
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 17:12:58 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Dan Simoes <dans@ans.net>
> Subject: Re: A4tq Avant!
>
> Cool.  I'm sure an email to AoA will help muddy...er,
> clarify everything.
>
> I'm thinking about one in the fall for the Mrs, if the
> price is right (ie 25k or less).  We'll see.
> - --
> Dan Simoes                                dans@ans.net
> ANS Communications              http://coimbra.ans.net/dans.html
> 100 Manhattanville Road                 (914) 701-5378 (voice)
> Purchase, NY 10577                      (914) 701-5310 (fax)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 17:24:03 EDT
> From: Ckpcnp@aol.com
> Subject: 1990 COUPE QUATTRO
>
>  I finally test drove one of these beauties!!  Off the line, it feels slower
> than my 4000, but after 3500-4000rpms, it takes off.  Is this normal?  I like
> the handling.  I can get it for $9200, and it has 100,034 miles on it.  The
> only problem in the car I could find, is the coolant light was being displayed
> as soon as I turned on the key and it stayed on.  The car wasn't overheating,
> even after driving it hard for a while. The clutch feels good, and the black
> leather was mint.  Is this a good price for this car?  The rims are mint, no
> scratches on the Speedlines.  The front has paint chips out of the hood, like
> all older cars.  Should I look for anything else?  Thanks in advance!
>
> Craig K. Porter
> 86 4kcsq
> 85 4ks
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 17:32:00 -0400
> From: Phil Rose <pjrose@servtech.com>
> Subject: Eksten Autoworks in Rochester, NY
>
> Do any qlisters in the Rochester, NY area have experience/comments wrt Audi
> mechanical repairs at a shop called Eksten Autoworks (on Bennington Rd.)?
>
> Phil
>
> Phil Rose               Rochester, NY
> '89 100
> '91 200q                pjrose@servtech.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 17:45:48 -0400
> From: Brett Dikeman <brett@pdikeman.ne.mediaone.net>
> Subject: thumps and explosions in the night
>
> Perhaps Infiniti should now modify its "why infiniti owners love their
> cars" commercial:
> "Or perhaps it's the 6 speaker Bose stereo which randomly explodes and
> causes your car to be totally destroyed"
>
> or the "my son was with me one day when" commercial:
>
> "And the light turned green, and wouldn't you know, I smoked them.  But
> then my car exploded and they all laughed at me."
>
> Seems they're having some issues with the speakers exploding/catching fire.
> I think we should all ask our Infiniti-driving friends if their speakers
> will catch fire.  After all, many of us still endure the UA effect; I think
> we should, um, "blow" this one way out of proportion :)
>
> Brett
> PS: Spotted some form of Coupe on a PBS or BBC produced mystery on the
> local PBS station last night.  Black.  Didn't see sport badges, so I guess
> it was a recent UrQ or Coupe.  Speaking of which, I've never seen photos of
> the newer UrQ's.  Anyone have some pics?  I've only ever seen early-80's.
>
> - ------
> Brett Dikeman
> brett@pdikeman.ne.mediaone.net
> ~)-|
> Hostes alienigeni me abduxerunt.  Qui annus est?
> Te audire non possum.  Musa sapientum fixa est in aure.
> Ita, scio hunc 'sig file' veterem fieri.
> - ------
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:56:06 +0100
> From: "DRoxburgh" <DRoxburgh@email.msn.com>
> Subject: smelly boot (trunk)
>
> My Urq has a trunk (boot) that smells of petrol, especially when I fill it
> up ( the tank not the trunk (boot)). there seems to be a clear tube going
> nowhere on the left hand side just behind the light - before I strip the
> interior, is this just a drain pipe from the roof/aerial? Or could it be the
> source of the smell?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> TIA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:50:05 GMT
> From: quk@isham-research.demon.co.uk (Phil Payne)
> Subject: Re: Cameraderie
>
> In message <02f555050201b78UPIMSSMTPUSR06@email.msn.com> "Ian J Haseltine" writes:
>
> > The superior clique in every owners club that tends to appear only on sunny
> > days at classy festivals like Coys and GFOS is one of the reasons why I tend
> > to shy away from attending such things.
>
> Chatsworth (last year) was great.  We should do more in the North
> where these Southern poofters fear to tread.
>
> - --
>  Phil Payne
>  Phone: 0385 302803   Fax: 01536 723021
>  (The contents of this post will _NOT_ appear in the UK Newsletter.)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 22:36:43 GMT
> From: quk@isham-research.demon.co.uk (Phil Payne)
> Subject: FW:You might be a racer if...
>
> In message <3.0.5.32.19980727131034.008457e0@mail.teleport.com> John Karasaki writes:
>
> > You sometimes hear little noises from your passengers when you get on the
> > throttle right after turning in.
>
> No.  Nervous movements - they grab things and suck air through clenched
> teeth.
>
> > You thoroughly enjoy showing the tailgater behind how to drive around a
> > highway off-ramp.
>
> Yup.  Once did it to a police car.  Got stopped - no offence alleged.
>
> > You look at the purchase of tools as a long term investment.
>
> This is meant to be _humour_?
>
> > More than one racer supply house recognizes your voice and greets you by
> > name when you call.
>
> All five of the parts guys at Autohaus recognise my voice.
>
> > You have car parts in your cubicle at work.
>
> Does having a metering head on the desk count?
>
> > You have a separate drawer for 'garage clothes'.
>
> Sure.  Ever smelt 'cooked oil' on a business suit?  I keep my garage
> clothes in a separate _room_.
>
> > You astound the clerk at Sears by bringing in a snapped breaker bar every
> > other week or so.
>
> No. 2 crosshead screwdriver bits, actually.  But the principle's the
> same.
>
> > You complain when cars in front of you on highway off-ramps don't stay on
> > the line, causing your exit speed to drop.
>
> Doesn't everyone?
>
> > You refer to the corner down the street from your house as "Turn One."
>
> LOL.  My kids call it the "bum-settler" because I wriggle back into the
> seat just before we hit it.
>
> >- You enjoy driving in the rain on the way to work or school.
>
> C'mon - I drive an ur-quattro.
>
> > You always late apex the intersection and try to pass a few cars coming
> > out.
>
> At least three.  Trucks count three, but two trucks only counts five.
>
> > You can't stand understeer.
>
> In an ur-quattro?  Kill it with the pedal on the right.
>
> >  You will gladly pay up to $8 for a quart of engine oil.
>
> Mobil 1 is close to twice that here.
>
> > You save broken car parts as " momentos".
>
> ROFL.  Now why _have_ I still got a pressure regulator with a tag tied
> to it saying: "Bust.  4.8 bar."
>
> > The local police and state Highway Patrol have a picture of your car
> > taped to their dashboard.
>
> In their words: "We can't catch you, but we know who you are."
>
> > You have racing shops programmed on on your speed dialer.
>
> Well, parts.  Five of 'em.
>
> - --
>  Phil Payne
>  Phone: 0385 302803   Fax: 01536 723021
>  (The contents of this post will _NOT_ appear in the UK Newsletter.)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 10:12:36 +1200
> From: Eaton Dave <dave.eaton@minedu.govt.nz>
> Subject: RE: Good looking A3
>
> yeah, i agree.  i think that the a3 is a great looking car, but only
> with the dark colours and with wheel/tyre upgrades.  looks very
> substantial, sporty and affluent for a small car.  personally, i'd trade
> the so's vw gti on one except that they refuse to be parted....
>
> dave
> '95 rs2
> '90 ur-q
>
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 22:02:32 +0100
> > From: "Ian J Haseltine" <jim_haseltine@email.msn.com>
> >
> > Had my opinion of the A3 changed today. Previously I thought that the
> model
> >[snip]
> >
> > One very smart car. Now I know what I'd like as a second car - if I
> could
> > find one like that without having to buy it new........
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:02:07 -0400
> From: Chris Newbold <cnewbold@transarc.com>
> Subject: Re: Eksten Autoworks in Rochester, NY
>
> Phil Rose wrote:
>
> > Do any qlisters in the Rochester, NY area have experience/comments wrt Audi
> > mechanical repairs at a shop called Eksten Autoworks (on Bennington Rd.)?
>
> I've never delt with them. If you're looking for a top-notch, honest
> guy try:
>
>         Randy Ames
>         Import Autohaus
>
>         Main:   716-381-6180
>
>         319 East Chestnut St.
>         East Rochester, NY 14445
>
> He knows what he's doing; he is the "resident" mechanic for many clubs
> at their Watkins Glen events. Tell him I sent you.
>
> - -Chris
> 1993 90CS 67k miles
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:23:53 -0400
> From: Huw Powell <human@nh.ultranet.com>
> Subject: in search of... badges
>
> Hi virtual folks,
>
> I'm looking for some (1-3) of the little oval Audi logos such as
> appeared on the side moldings of mid-late 80's cars.  These had a chrome
> ring (which can be trashed, don't need) around a black oval with silver
> "Audi" text.
>
> Need 'em for my new wheels... thanks!
>
> PS has anyone ever figured out how to make the four ring emblem, grill
> sized, from raw tubing???
>
> - --
> Huw Powell
>
> http://www.thebook.com/human-speakers/audi-main.htm
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 14:34:10 -0800
> From: "Lewis Schnaper." <lewis@ukpik.com>
> Subject: Source for V8 relay
>
> Hi.  I need to find a used mirror memory control unit (4A0907445A) for a
> '92 V8.  Everything else checks out in the remote mirror system, so....
> I'd appreciate suggestions as to where to start looking.
>
> I also discovered that my LH mirror was replaced sometime in the past
> with one that doesn't have the heating element, which isn't so good here
> in Alaska.  Anyone in a warm place have a spare heated mirror that they
> want to swap for the unheated version or, more realistically, what's a
> good source for these.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Lewis Schnaper
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:32:04 EDT
> From: WARATAP@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Ordering Keys from code number?
>
> In a message dated 7/27/98 5:35:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Steven.Buchholz@kla-tencor.com writes:
>
> << . this does not solve my
>  problem, as I'd like to be able to have a valet key ...
>
>  I did not get the key code tag with the car, but when I pulled the trunk
>  lock cylinder I noticed that the key code was stamped into it ...
>
>  TIA!
>  Steve Buchholz >>
>
> Steve, yes you could simply have key made accoring to the code, but most
> dealers don't like to do this.  But honestly, it would be no problem to make a
> valet key from the original.  After all, the cutting of the key is the same,
> it is merely that the Valet (assuming old style (ie. pre '96?) has a grove
> with raised area between two flat-lengthwise cuts that the non -Valet key does
> not have.  The dealer certainly should have valet key blanks.  I hope I
> expressed this correctly, as I'm not a locksmith.  Maybe this will help:
>
> Normal Key as seen lying flat and if you were the lock!
>
> XXXXXXXXX
> XXXXXXXXXXXX
>      XXXXXXXXXXXX
>            XXXXXXXXX
>
> Valet Key:
>
> XXXXXXXXXX   X
> XXXXXXXXXXXXX
>     XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
>     X   XXXXXXXXXXX
>
> HTH
>
> - -Ingo Rautenberg
> 90 V8 202,000 miles
> <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/Quattringo/index.html">Click here: Quattringo
> </A>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 14:58:00 -0700
> From: "Nambisan, Byas U" <byas.u.nambisan@intel.com>
> Subject: A4 fuel gauge Qs
>
> I took my '96 A4 in for service to have 2 problems fixed
> 1.  Creaking clutch pedal
> 2.  Fuel gauge that does not
>      (a) register full tank
>      (b) drops to zero when tank is between 1/4 - 1/3 full
>
> The service tech said they have to order a new clutch master cylinder
> and a new instrument panel.  The problem with replacing the entire
> instrument panel is that the mileage will be reset to zero.  :(
>
> Only upside I could think of (hope for) is that, perhaps, I could
> upgrade my intrument panel to one with the trip computer/radio
> display.  Is this realistic?  Perhaps I could replace the guage face
> at the same time.  Appreciate any tips/advice on how to make best of
> this less than desirable situation.
>
> Regards,
> Byas
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:46:29 -0400
> From: Elliott Potter <epotter@abraxis.com>
> Subject: Re: A4 fuel gauge Qs
>
> Nambisan, Byas U wrote:
> >
> > I took my '96 A4 in for service to have 2 problems fixed
> > 1.  Creaking clutch pedal
> > 2.  Fuel gauge that does not
> >      (a) register full tank
> >      (b) drops to zero when tank is between 1/4 - 1/3 full
> >
> > The service tech said they have to order a new clutch master cylinder
> > and a new instrument panel.  The problem with replacing the entire
> > instrument panel is that the mileage will be reset to zero.  :(
>
> The new speedometer should have something on the back that will let them
> set the milage to be what the old one had.
> - --
> Elliott
>
> "The purpose of writing is to inflate weak ideas, obscure poor
> reasoning, and inhibit clarity.  With a little practice, writing can be
> an intimidating and impenetrable fog!"
>         --Calvin
>
> > [...]
> > Regards,
> > Byas
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:52:16 EDT
> From: MHLIGGINS@aol.com
> Subject: Re: oh well!(kaboom) - a boring excursion into physics of Kinematic
>
> <<Mark's consideration is correct for a small horizontal travel L.
> However in the absence of friction the car .......etc., etc.
>
> ....... The car needs to overcome the gravity force
> which is Gamma times car's mass times Earth' mass divided by the distance
> between them square, where Gamma is the gravitational constant.
>
> ************************************************************
> Igor Kessel
> '89 200TQ -- 18psi (TAP)
> '98 A4TQ -- mostly stock
> Philadelphia, PA
> USA
> http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/8949/homepage.html>>
>
>         I knew that.
>
>         Later.
>         --ml in Bucksnort
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:55:46 -0400
> From: "Craig D. Niederst" <niederst@telerama.com>
> Subject: Ur-Q in EC
>
> I was leafing through my newly arrived European Car and noticed a white Ur-Q
> that they had featured. I thought the car looked familiar from the pictures,
> but I did not realize that I have seen the car in person before until I
> started reading. The car was a project that the Sewickley Car Store (the
> dealer where I take my car occasionally) had undertaken, along with a local
> body shop that specializes in Audi's (Greater Pittsburgh Auto Center, the
> only place I have body work done). I've actually sat in the car before about
> 6 months ago. They had the hood closed, and the salesman who permitted me to
> sit in the car did not mention the 20v conversion that car had done. Out and
> out a beautiful restoration, both mechanically and cosmetically.
>
> Craig
> '92 100S (73k)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:22:54 -0400
> From: Ken Johnson <KR-Johnson@worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: sunroof seal
>
> Hi guys,
> When I was loking at my car the other day, I noticed that the piece
> that  surrounds the sunroof had a foam tube (or something like that)
> sticking  out of it.  The cloth cover has begun to tear.  I have no idea
> what it is, and I can't find it in the Haynes repair guide.  Can anyone
> please tell me what this thing is/where I can get a new one? (The piece
> surrounding the sunroof, not the foam thing).
>
> Peter Johnson
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:30:23 -0400
> From: "Daily,DerekSJMCG" <DDaily@sjmcb.mitsui.com>
> Subject: RE: Good looking A3
>
> Does she like red?   ;-)
>
> ALL Red A3 2.8q Individual Quattro GmbH at Ingolstadt.  Not exactly a dark
> color, but substantial wheel, engine, drivetrain, and interior up-grades...
> If you call red carpet, red leather seats and red-lether shift boot an
> upgrade ;-)
>
> Derek Daily
> 90 CQ
> 86 VW qsw
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eaton Dave [SMTP:dave.eaton@minedu.govt.nz]
> > yeah, i agree.  i think that the a3 is a great looking car, but only
> > with the dark colours and with wheel/tyre upgrades.  looks very
> > substantial, sporty and affluent for a small car.  personally, i'd trade
> > the so's vw gti on one except that they refuse to be parted....
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 98 16:37:30 -0700
> From: Michael Williams <daserde@ucla.edu>
> Subject: Re: Tires and wheels for my 4kq
>
> Cory Meyer decided to speak these words:
>
> >While looking for tires I have heard that the Dunlap D60 A2 are an excelent
> >all season tire.  I am accually looking for a summer tire.
>
> Uhh...i dont think so...but go with the Dunlop Sport 8000...great grip in
> wet and dry, but crappy in the snow...but that's what snow tires are
> for...
>
> so go with the sport 8000's
>
> later...
>
> Michael Sheridan Williams
> ICQ# 11740998
>
> 1985 4000 S Quattro 182,000+ miles, Turbo conversion soon?, Koni
> Yellows/2Bennett, strut brace, Sport 8000 Tires, K&N, MOMO 4pt harnesses,
> Hella XL Driving lights (2x135w), magnecor wires....<out of breath>
> 1986 Oceanic Blue, 4000CS Quattro--Parting Out(ask if you want anything)
> My father's: 1986 4000 CS Quattro--Graphite 161,000 miles
>
> http://members.aol.com/daserde2
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 20:20:36 -0400
> From: Dwight Varnes <xmxbreed@lancnews.infi.net>
> Subject: Sway bar bushings for 4k
>
> Anyone have recommendations for bushings? Urethane? Silicone? Bat guano?
> The lack of squeaks is more important to me than firming things up.
> - --
> "Life is too short to drive a minivan."
>
> Dwight Varnes
> 1970 124 Spider (restored)
> 1986 Audi Coupe GT (waiting for more HP)
> 1989 VW Jetta GLI 16v (wife's ride)
> 1998 Ford Contour 16v (co. car, got to pick the color)
> 1965 Buick Skylark conv. (kinda fun in a bizarre way)
>
> remove first 'x' in anti-spam address to reply
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 17:49:43 -0700
> From: "Avi Meron" <avi@cosmoslink.net>
> Subject: religion and Audis ....       RE: The ULTIMATE cure for those Quattro blues
>
> You shattered my heart, I thought we were practicing a religion.....the only
> one I found suitable (so far, but not really looking..).....
> Avi
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-quattro@coimbra.ans.net
> > [mailto:owner-quattro@coimbra.ans.net]On Behalf Of David Wilson
> > Sent: Monday, July 27, 1998 12:17 PM
> > To: Quattro@coimbra.ans.net; Tomas.Leveckis@analog.com
> > Subject: Re: The ULTIMATE cure for those Quattro blues
> >
> >
> > OH PLEASE.
> >
> > They are just CARS. All of them. Torsen or not, Audi or not. Of
> > all the lists I am on, this is one of the more aggravating simply
> > due to pious comments such as this. It must have been so
> > irritating to see a VW GTI run with the mighty Quattros in the
> > Pennsylvania Pro rally. Sprong is good, but so much of what a
> > car, like a computer, can do depends on the driver. More often
> > than not, THAT is the inferior automotive content. Yes, the guy
> > with the Sierra is annoying, but darn it, many times it is that
> > attitude that nothing else matters if you can't put a Q behind
> > your car's listing that invites such trolling.
> >
> > The content above is free, and worth every penny. JMHO
> >
> > David Wilson - 86 CGT, and yes not one but two Merkur XR4Ti's,
> > and a lonely MGBGT
> >
> > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********
> >
> > On 7/27/98, at 1:53 PM, Tomas Leveckis wrote:
> >
> > >And this is related to quattro in what way????
> > >
> > >I for one do not care for inferior automotive
> > >content...
> > >
> > >Tom Leveckis
> > >'91 90Q20V
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Andrew Jackson (CCC-REO) wrote:
> > >>
> > >> All  you Ford XR4x4 fans out there might want to have a look at:
> > >> http://www.cybernet.dk/users/genie/xrfords.htm#XR4X4
> > >> (in particular the "Technical data on the 2.9 litre Ford
> > Sierra XR4X4" link)
> > >>
> > >> I'm sure you'll all be very disappointed to hear that I've not
> > been able to
> > >> find any current pics on the web (XR4x4 pics on the above site show the
> > >> pre-89 model).
> > >>
> > >> Many  thanks for your support and encouragement ;-)
> > >> ----
> > >> Andrew Jackson (Berkshire, UK)
> > >
> > >--
> > >========================================================================
> > >Tomas Leveckis                          Analog Devices, Inc.
> > >Tomas.Leveckis@analog.com               Three Technology Way
> > >Phone: 617 461 3847                     Norwood, MA  02062-9106  USA
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 17:41:34 -0700
> From: John Larson <jdlarson@ix.netcom.com>
> Subject: V6 Timing belt/Water Pump replacement
>
> We`re an hour or so from the nearest dealer, and don`t see too many
> later model Audis. We service 2 V6 cars, and both have had belts at
> about 60K. We had a slight overheating condition on the 1st one we saw,
> so we changed the thermostat with the belt. The customer began
> complaining about a squeek that happened occaisionally on start up, and
> began to become more common and more long lasting. Eventually, mild to
> pronounced overheating began  to occur, and we went back in there. The
> pump had siezed, and the new belt was sliding over the W/P pulley.
> Scary. A new pump and another belt took care of it. In my opinion,
> having worked on a lot of 944s, I would NEVER drive a car that fouls the
> valvetrain over the recommended mileage. For 944s , a lot of shops say
> 40K, most Audi guys I know say 60K for a V6. The water pump is such a
> minor expense that we always recommend replacement concurrent with the
> belt and any tensioners. Pay a little more now, or a lot more later.
> It`s just part of regular maintenance, like tune up parts or oil
> changes, brake pads or tires.John.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:02:11 -0400
> From: Dave Head <dhead@sundial.sundial.net>
> Subject: Re: UPDATE: Stranded in Charleston, WV
>
> At 02:12 PM 7/27/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >Well, thanks to someone at European Car Service and a phone call from Robert
> >Myers (thanks, Robert, I owe you one!) we were able to track down the
> problem to
> >a faulty linkage between the cruise and the throttle body.  Dick Binns,
> you were
> >right on the money.  So, a quick stop to get some twist-ties or chewing
> gum or
> >something and she should be on her way.  Boy, had me scared for a second,
> I was
> >dreading the thought of either a) the Audi Dealership or b) towing a quattro
> >back to Michigan on a flatbed.
>
> This must be a virus - I just posted the same problem a few days after
> someone else was looking for the part
> ********************************AUDI FAN***********************************
>                                    EMCM(SW) Dave Head
> 87 5KCStq 238K miles                1.85 or so... bar
>     qcusa #3442           Oviedo, Florida     plate: STLTHTQ
> ****************************************************************************
> **
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:31:47 -0600
> From: Powells@ezlink.com
> Subject: <All>Towing Note
>
> I've said some of this before, but I will repeat it just in case....
>
> Towing a car with all fours off the ground is definitely the way to go.
>  U-Haul's "Auto Transport" trailer is a superior device for this (I've
> put over 3000 miles towing cars on them in the last 14 months...).
>
> HOWEVER - there is a caution.  Weight for a double axle trailer
> must be added to the weight of the car, and BOTH the tow vehicle
> and the HITCH on the tow vehicle must be up to the task.
>
> Example: towing a Datsun Z-car with another Z-car is sheer folly.
> neither the hitch nor the car are built for it.  Don't.
>
> Example: U-Haul's auto transport is 2,000 lbs.  Most light cars are
> at least 2,000 additional pounds.  A quick look into the hitch
> manuals will  show you that a Class III (three) hitch is required to
> tow this weight safely.
>
> They don't even MAKE class three hitches for small or medium
> passenger cars, because the car is not suitable for this job -
> period.  Unless you have a full-size van or a leftover 70's or 80's
> land yacht car or station wagon, your're likely only to find class
> three hitches for SUV's or pickups.
>
> And don't assume that a step-bumper on a pickup will work, either.
>  I had to install a $150 receiver hitch on my '85 Chevy half-ton
> before they would even rent me the trailer.  They pronounced my
> step bumper inadequate.
>
> So the moral is, before you can tow correctly, you must have the
> vehicle and the hitch with which do to it.
> ++++++++++++++++++++WSU-CSU+++++++++++++++++
> Al Powell
> Powells@EZlink.com
> 1958 Fiat 1200 Spyder "Transformabile"
> 1983 Datsun 280ZXT
> 1990 Audi 200
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 21:40:05 -0400
> From: "Ron Roth" <talkpine@lightlink.com>
> Subject: New Address
>
> QList-
> If by chance anyone needs/wants to know, I have a new ISP
> and email address:  talkpine@lightlink.com
>
> (used to be talkpine@clarityconnect.com)
> Thanks for your time!        Ron
> *****Ron Roth  Ithaca NY USA  84 4ks*****
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 13:58:07 +1200
> From: Eaton Dave <dave.eaton@minedu.govt.nz>
> Subject: wrc in the rain
>
> spent the last 4 days following the wrc circus through the northern
> roads of new zealand, while attempting to take photographs and video.
> the things attempting to prevent this were monsoonal conditions on the
> 1st 2 days, preventing good photography and easy access (sounds like the
> rac), and the usual drama of trying to get to as many locations in as
> short a period of time as possible.  to cap it all off, the rally
> finished in glorious summer conditions where dust became a problem.
> welcome to the nz winter folks....
>
> highlights:
>
> 1) watching the amazing grip of the toyotas, particularly in the wet.
> this is the 1st time i've seen the new tte
> (we're-no-longer-cheating-honest) cars and they are very good.  small
> and nimble, but much smoother than the subaru's.  the subaru jocks have
> to be a lot more pronounced with their cars to get them to perform
> (which they did very well over the week-end).  overall sainz took the
> win over auriol with the suspicion of team orders in the final few
> stages (the time sheets make interesting reading).
>
> 2) on the dry final day, the ability of the awd cars to put rubber down
> (literally) onto the gravel is amazing.  each year, they get better and
> better at this.
>
> 3) the seats (f2) were very fast and noisy, and looked very good.  the
> professionalism of this outfit looks good for vw's 1st wrc car next
> year.  in contrast the f2 golf looked less good and rolled on the final
> day.
>
> 4) watching juha k's lines in the ford.  that car has the most amazing
> anti-lag system, judging by the noise it makes.  juha did enough on the
> stages that i saw him in to still be right up there for me.  the lines
> he took on the bridge stage were inch perfect when we looked at the
> videos later.
>
> 5) the chance to talk to colin mccrae at the service at the end of the
> 1st leg.  nice guy, and pretty relaxed (especially seeing as how he'd
> just broken a dumb-ass photographer's leg).  interesting talking to him
> about his technique in the subaru (see above).
>
> 6) standing 1/2 way across a railway bridge on a little ledge built to
> allow an escape route in the event of a train arriving unexpectidly,
> being very careful as i was 50' over a gorge with 1 handrail, looking
> down onto a little bridge with a nice large puddle of standing water
> which the 1st cars at least, would drive through (spectacularly i
> hoped).  anyway, it was very slippery on the ledge and there was little
> room, and i had an hour to kill.  i look up and there was a railway
> truck on the lines coming down towards me!  he saw me of course, and we
> had a nice chat while we waiting for the 1st cars.  told him what a
> rally was, and helped him thinking up ever more inventive excuses for
> his boss who was wondering where the truck/jigger had disappeared to!
>
> 7) the sheer pleasure of discovering little-used winding gravel roads in
> the midst of stunningly beautiful farmland, when your colleagues are
> pushing pencils in offices.  found a little beach down the whaanga coast
> (south of raglan) which i'll be going back to.  it certainly isn't on
> the map (literally).
>
> 8) the pleasure of discovering that the nikon is as waterproof as the
> old one while watching the canon jocks doing what i used to have to do
> with my canon with plastic bags....
>
> 9) the usual camaraderie of photographers.  "oi you, move, you're in my
> shot".
>
> other:
>
> 1) during the course of the event, which was very well supported, i saw
> 2 audi's (a4s).  there were literally dozens of subaru's - mostly lagacy
> turbos with a smattering of wrx's.  subaru have really tapped this
> market, escpecially as i saw only 2-3 mitsi's evo 3's and 4's and a
> single celica gt4.  given that the wrx and the evo are about the same
> price, mitsi need to look at better marketing.
>
> 2) driving our car was interesting.  it was my 1st time driving a subaru
> rs twin turbo.  good for about 208kw apparently, although didn't really
> feel like it.  the twin turbos were not particularly well installed and,
> although the low-down boost was good (better than the rs2, but not as
> good as the 20v), there was a definite lag in the middle which makes for
> a pretty different driving technique.  at 4,000 in 5th there is less
> 'go' than there is a 2,800, or 5,500!  the engine will rev to 7,000 like
> the rr, but has more go at the top end that car, although nowhere near
> the rs2.  it would be interesting to put all 3 cars on the dyno.
>
> the gearbox is delightful with a snappy short throw and less of the
> inertia which mars the audi change in my cars.  offset against this was
> a high degree of whine in the lower gears. handling was under-steery,
> particularly wrt my audi's.  reminded my of the wr actually.  pushing
> hard (chasing a imprezza), and the car is hard work, without a lot of
> chassis feedback and some rear-end nervousness.  accentuated in the wet.
> this was the car which my friend pitted against my ur-quattro a few
> week-ends ago over a twisty hill road.  my respect for his driving
> abilities deepens i must say... the steering feel flatters to deceive.
> initial impressions are very good, certainly better than the rs2, but
> you quickly tire of the heaviness of the controls, and their coarseness,
> where the audi, while detaching you from the action, definitely leaves
> you more in touch with the chassis.  the chassis wanders at speed which
> is also slightly disconcerting until you get used to it.  as a chassis,
> it is nowhere close to the rr imo.  build quality is good, although my
> usual checking of things such as door hinges reveals pretty light-weight
> fixtures.
>
> having said the above, overall i though the car offered good value for
> money, good performance and safety.  would i buy one?  not to replace
> either of my wagons i wouldn't...
>
> dave
> '95 rs2
> '90 ur-q
>
> ------------------------------
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