RE: A reality in Hollywood - what's that?

[Ed Kellock <EKellock@placemakers.co.nz>]

Could this difference of peoples' various anecdotal experiences be
explained by differences in choice of ammunition?

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> Sent:	Thursday, October 01, 1998 7:41 AM
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> Subject:	Re: A reality in Hollywood - what's that?
> 
> > A .357 magnum round can and has been demonstrated to pass completely
> > through an old Murican cast arn engine block, end to end after
> penetrating
> > body, seats, dash, etc, first.  I don't recommend hiding from
> bullets
> > behind a piece of sheet metal.
> 
> I think this is an urban legend; I also heard it. I did a lot of
> shooting with a
> .357 Magnum and I seriously doubt that it will penetrate an engine
> block ... at
> least till I see it with my own eyes. More likely that competition
> Glock .45
> that I shot the last time around, but still, I have to see it to
> believe it.
> 
> I should also note that it's not the sheet metal of the car door alone
> but the
> window motor, the steel glass raising arms, the inner bracketry etc.
> that stop
> the bullets.
> 
> What I saw with my own eyes was a guy shooting all kinds of firearms
> into the
> car through the door at the point-blank range (1.5-2m away) after
> which the door
> was opened and the inner door panel was removed and examined for the
> presence of
> exit holes. It turned out that they found only two holes: the 7.62mm
> (AK47) and
> that of a sniper rifle. The rest of the projectiles were fished out of
> the door
> bottom, all squashed and looking like daisies.
> 
> The pistols with the hollow point ammo were the most pathetic ones -
> for obvious
> reasons.
> 
> Off course there's always a small chance that the projectile will meet
> just the
> outer sheet metal door skin alone - this would explain the sad example
> with
> Bob's neighbour, killed by a 9mm.
> 
> A few years back I arranged that my wife took a self-defence course in
> my
> shooting club and the instructor (who is a Philly Police vet of 26
> years)
> explicitly told them:
> -"what do you do if someone is trying to hijack your car? Nothing,
> just drive
> away. Your chance of being hit behind the locked doors is negligible
> in
> comparison with you stepping out of the vehicle into the bandit's
> mercy". I know
> this guy very well and am certain that he knows what he's talking
> about.
> 
> My apologies for dragging this non-Audi topic along. I will reply to
> any future
> firearms-relarted posts off list.
> 
> Igor Kessel
> P.S. In the light of the recent posts: 
> I can not be held liable if you get shot while hiding behind the car's
> door.
> Thankfully, I never had a chance to test this survival technique in
> the real
> life. All said hereabove is the good faith description of something
> that I saw
> on film or heard from other people. I do not personally endorse any of
> it.