>Hey now, obsession is not necessarily a bad thing is it??? Nah. Unless maybe your spending $5,000 a year on a MB UR-Q. :-) Dang Phil, that blows me away. You track the Wire TIes you use. OF course, you didnt use ALL those ties. I dont include stuff like that in my Main Estimates. More my Garage Stocking Costs. All related in the end though. L8R Todd