Re: lltis further information - trivial pursuit questions

[ti@amb.org (Ti Kan)]

Eaton Dave writes:
> i've checked my information about the lltis.  i hadn't realised that it was
> actually produced at ingolstadt!

Yep.  It was badged as a VW, but was an Audi-engineered and built vehicle.

> it won the paris-dakar in 1980 with kottulinsky and loffelmann driving.  i'm
> 90% certain that this vehicle had the turbo inline 5 in it (with
> intercooler) along with the prototype quattro transmission (or course).
> it's purpose was to test the ur-quattro components before putting them in
> the type 85 chassis.

The Paris-Dakar car may have been 5 cylinder, I don't know for sure;
but the normal production Iltis had the 4-cylinder engine (the same
basic one used in many other VWs and Audis), and I don't think it was
turbocharged.

> so, technically, the lltis is the 1st generation ur-quattro, at least as far
> as motorsport was concerned.

OK.

Audi engineers built a proof-of-concept test mule using a modified Audi 80
(for U.S. readers, this was the Audi Fox in the late 70s) chassis and put
some modified hacked up componentry (Iltis and other Audi parts bin stuff,
as well as some one-offs pieces).  This was used to demonstrate the
effectiveness of the concept to VW/Audi senior management.  The car had
160hp yet it outperformed a 240hp Porsche 928 on a test course, and got
the engineers the approval to proceed with the quattro project.  That car
would arguably be the first "ur" quattro :).

-Ti
96 A4 2.8 quattro
84 5000S 2.1 turbo
80 4000 2.0
-- 
    ///  Ti Kan                Vorsprung durch Technik
   ///   AMB Research Laboratories, Sunnyvale, CA. USA
  ///    ti@amb.org
 //////  http://metalab.unc.edu/tkan/
///