Re: Space saver spare tires are a joke

[John Karasaki <johkar@teleport.com>]

I have 20+ full size "spares" I can choose from to put in the "trunk"
portion of the '87 5KTQW.  So what does it have in it?  A compact spare
from a urq so it can fit in the left side vertical compartment like all the
non-quattro 5k based avants.

Why do I want to haul around a full sized spare?  I'd rather have the
extra, huge, trunk space for other things instead of for storing an item I
will probably never use.  If I ever have to use the spare, it will be on
for a VERY short period of time.  Is a compact spare dangerous?  Not if you
remember it is on there and drive with your head instead of in a binary
fashion.

A couple of years ago I sold someone on this list a set of "new" 15x6,
5x112mm wheels from a '87 5kt.  These I had gathered from the trunks of
various 5kts in various wrecking yards.  Each had NEVER been used.  These
cars mostly were the 100k+ mile variety.

At least in 1987, the 5kt and 5ktq came with a full sized spare.  The
owners manual makes a big deal about it.  Some bean counter or marketer
must have realized it wasn't helping sales, so it was eliminated.

John Karasaki
"living on the edge with a compact spare tire in the boot"




At 04:00 PM 1/15/99 -0500, Glen_Powell@ne.3com.com wrote:
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>The 87 5KTQW has a full-size spare.
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>-glen
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>"mlcmlcmlc" <mlcmlc@enter.net> on 01/15/99 01:57:56 PM
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>Please respond to "mlcmlcmlc" <mlcmlc@enter.net>
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>To:   C1J1Miller@aol.com
>cc:   "quattro list" <quattro@coimbra.ans.net>, "200q20v list"
>      <200q20v@pdikeman.ne.mediaone.net> (Glen Powell/US/3Com)
>Subject:  Space saver spare tires are a joke
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>Come on !!
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>In a car as large as the type 44 sedans & avants, not outfitting or
>designing a space for a proper stock sized spare tire is outrageous !  The
>stock sized wheels and tires are not that big, 205/60 or 215/60  15" .
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>the 87 sedan is a tight fit in the trunk w/ a 15x7 w/ 205/60 as a spare.
>The floor panel is slightly raised at the rear. I imagine the 91 200 15x7.5
>w/215/60 would raise the panel more (obviously), the question is the
>diameter.
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>The 91 Avant has miles of space for a legitimate spare. (I checked). I'm
>currently trying to find a stock wheel for my 1991 200Q avant for this very
>pupose. (15x7.5  ET 35mm).  Anyone have a few  of these ?  If so I'm
>interested in buying .
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>Joel Stetina    87 5000TQ, 91 200Q avant, 79 323i, & stuff
>-----Original Message-----
>From: C1J1Miller@aol.com <C1J1Miller@aol.com>
>To: quattro@coimbra.ans.net <quattro@coimbra.ans.net>
>Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 11:08 AM
>Subject: Subject: Re: '86 5k turbo lights/grille into a '84 5k
>turbo...doable??and other questions
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>>In message <8cbeae05.369722e1@aol.com> JordanVw@aol.com writes:
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>>>>also another question - what years of 5k TQ came with a full size spare
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>><Has to be the dumbest thing, especially on the ur-quattro.  A "space
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>><saving" spare tyre?  Oh yeah?
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>><What happens when you _do_ have a puncture?  Where do you put the one
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>><you've taken off?
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>><I suppose it's an Audi - you don't replace the tyre, you just order a
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>><new complete wheel and leave the old one at the roadside.
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>>I thought this started because the body design was originally for a
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>>with smaller rims/wheels.  A full size would probably fit in my
>5000-bodied
>>'91 200q; but the 7.5" wide rim would cause it to stick up too high...
>>also, these fancy alloy wheels/tires would require a higher base price if
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>>bought 5 rather than 4 plus a cheapo donut spare.
>>chris miller, windham nh, c1j1miller@aol.com
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