Pulling the servotronic relay has been reported with success in the V8s, I assume the S4/6 would respond the same. -- Dan Simoes dans@ans.net MCIWorldcom Advanced Networks http://coimbra.ans.net/dans.html 100 Manhattanville Road, Suite 5 (914) 701-5378 (voice) Purchase, NY 10577 (914) 701-5310 (fax)