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Re: Warning,avoid this car!!!



Hairy green toads from Mars made Sean Barry say:

> Looked at a 5k the other afternoon, this car shouldn't be touched by
> anyone.
> Long story short, not the sellers car a "friend" of his who conviently
> moved out of town.
> Seller has little/no knowledge of the car other than it needs a fuel
> pump, wouldn't let me take a good look. Claims the car is an 89 5ks,
> also he was quite late for our meeting. Got the VIN, and checked it with
> carfax which resulted in an invalid VIN.

That's your clue.

In '89, they were NOT 5000's, they were 100's. I have one.
The 5000 designation was dropped in '88.

I found this VIN question in VW FAQ list.  Hopefully, it can solve 
your confusion.

---------------------- start include----------------------
Q: What is captured in the US Vehicle Identification Number?
A: Sample US V.I.N. :
   Breakdown of VIN number for Volkswagen Products up to Model Year 1989
   (actually later than that (Ed.))
   [From: Joe Angerstein, jochena@bjsys.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca]

   FIELDS IN THE VIN

 1  2  3        4  5  6  7  8        9      10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
_______________________________________________________________________
|__|__|__|     |__|__|__|__|__|    |__|    |__|__|__|__|__|__|__|__|
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

     FIELD              FIELD               FIELD            FIELD
    1  2  3               4                   5                6

   _________          _________           ___________       _________
  |Manufac'r|        |Bodystyle|         |Engine Type|     |Restraint|
  | Make    |        |by Model |          -----------      | System
   ---------          ---------                             ---------
       ___           Passenger             Listed by       ___
    _ |1VW| US       Vehicles              increasing      |0| Active
   |  |___|Pass.Car  ----------            horsepower      ___
   |   ___           ___                   available       |2| Passive-fixed
   |- |WVW| Europe   |A| 2-dr Economy      for each        ___
   |  |___|Pass.Car  ___                   model           |4| Motorized
   |   ___           |B| 2-dr Custom       A - lowest      ___
   |- |WV1| Europe   ___                       H/P Gas     |5| Airbag
   |  |___|Truck     |C| 2-dr Deluxe
VW-|   ___           ___                   G - Lowest	   ___
   |- |WV2| Europe   |D| 2-dr Sports           H/P Diesel  |9| Passive
   |  |___|MPV
   |   ___           ___
   |- |3VW| Mexico   |E| 4-dr Economy
   |  |___|Pass.Car  ___
   |   ___           |F| 4-dr Custom
   |- |9BW| Brazil   ___
   |___|Pass.Car     |G| 4-dr Delux
       ___
Audi -|WAU| Europe   ___
      |___|Pass.Car  |H| 16V / Turbo

                     ___
                     |K| 2-dr Sedan
                     ___
                     |P| 4-dr Sedan (Base)
                     ___
                     |R| 4-dr Sedan (Upgrade)
                     ___
                     |T| 4-dr Sedan (Upgrade)

                     Transporter /
                     Vanagon
                     ___
                     |U| 2-dr Pickup
                     ___
                     |V| 3-dr Double Cab Pickup
                     ___
                     |W| 3-dr Del'y Van
                     ___
                     |X| 3-dr Window Van
                     ___
                     |Y| 3-dr Bus
                     ___
                     |Z| 3-dr Camper

----

   FIELD               FIELD                FIELD                  FIELD
    7 8                 9                    10                    11

  _______              _____                _____              ____________
 | Model |            |Check|              |Model|            |Plant of    |
  -------             |digit|              |Year |            |Manufacturer|
____                   -----                -----              ------------
|15| VW Cabriolet     calculated            A=1980            A = Ingolstadt
____                    per                 B=1981            B = Brussels
|1G| VW Jetta          NHTSA                C=1982            E = Emden
____                   Code                 D=1983            G = Gratz
|1G| VW Golf(89 1/2 MY)                     E=1984            H = Hannover
____     VW ex Mexico                       F=1985            K = Osnabrueck
|1H| VW Golf/Jetta(93 MY)                   G=1986            M = Mexico
      (inc Mexico?)                         H=1987            N = Neckarsulm
____                                        J=1988            P = Brazil
|16| VW Jetta(88 MY)                        K=1989            S = Stuttgart
____                                        L=1990            V = Westmoreland
|17| VW Golf/GTI(88 MY)                     M=1991            W = Wolfsburg
____                                        N=1992
|24| VW Transporter                         P=1993
       (Pickups, Multivan)                  R=1994 (?)
____                                        S=1995
|25| VW Transporter (Vans)                  T=1996
   VW Vanagon
____
|30| VW Fox
____
|31| VW Passat
____
|32| VW Quantum
____
|50| VW Corrado
____
|53| VW Scirocco
____
|70| VW Eurovan
____
|43| Audi 5000 / older
____
|44| Audi 5000/100/200/V8
____
|4A| Audi S4/100CS/V8
____
|81| Audi 4000
____
|83| Audi 4000
____
|89| Audi 90
____
|85| Audi Coupe GT
____
|8A| Audi 90
____
|8B| Audi Coupe

----

   FIELD
   12,13,14,
   15,16,17
 _____________
|Sequential   |
|Production No|
 -------------

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Andrew L. Duane (JOT-7)			duane@zk3.dec.com
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