My dad's an audi dealer, & my best bud bought a '98 1.8t w/tiptronic and I can say that as a die-hard stick guy, I really enjoy the tiptronic. In LA traffic (or any city's for that matter) the auto mode is very helpful. Then, when the going gets fun, it's nice to have the control of the tip'. -- --------------------------------------- Chris Dyer, Sony Development dyer@sre.sony.com (818) 525-2488