In a message dated 99-04-06 18:59:44 EDT, you write: << I can find two figures, 1981 Ur quattro - 2786lb (1264kg) and a non-model specific 'original specification' of 2844lb (1291kg) >> I have 2866 listed for the 1985 up ur'q, 2838 for the early cars (car and driver lists 3040 lbs.), 2806 for the sport quattro Later! Carter J Kwattro@aol.com