This really does SUCK. I've experienced some real cool trust on this list-- Bentley manuals, parts, etc. I have yet to run into a situation like this. Some people just view generosity as an opportunity to beat someone and 'get away' with something. At least Brendan won't be able to show his e-mail 'face' on the List again-- Just my .02 worth, Richard 87 5KCVSTQ 85 4KSQ 82 VW Cabriolet