Now I know why so few people put 4kq manifolds and downpipes on coupes. It's a Chinese Puzzle if the engine is still installed... -- Huw Powell http://www.thebook.com/human-speakers (soon to be) http://www.humanspeakers.com 82 Audi Coupe (with right side of engine naked); 84 4kq; 85 Coupe GT http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~human