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RE: ETKA CD's Sub list?



Why not take this issue to individual, private e-mail.  The List, of
course, is e-mail already, and is not something someone can get into and
read without being a subscriber other than through the archives, but
private individual e-mail would not be in the archives.

Kneale Brownson


At 09:43 PM 6/29/99 +0100, Iain Atkinson wrote:
>Maybe best not to do it all then, seems to me there is too much worry to be
>worth the aggro. How about those who have it by various means setting up
>some kind of sub list so that those who don't can post to it with there
>questions?
>
>I still find it difficult to  believe that there is all this anxiety over
>being caught, maybe things are different over here in the UK ,or maybe I am
>just ignorant of them, if large corporate companies can get away with using
>pirated Microsoft software (allegedly) then....... what the hell.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c a l i b a n [mailto:caliban@sharon.net]
>> Sent: 29 June 1999 19:34
>> To: Iain Atkinson
>> Cc: quattro@audifans.com
>> Subject: RE: ETKA CD's
>>
>>
>>
>> 	suggestions for what, exactly.  selling them privately is
>> 	at the risk - and probably relatively minor risk - of the
>> 	buyers and seller.  if it was me, i'd do it thru some kind
>> 	of hotmail address with forged information.  i brought up
>> 	my points at  the suggestion of getting monies from the
>> 	sales to the q-list, etc.  selling audi's copyrighted
>> 	material to fund someting audi-related that even uses their
>> 	trademark name is bound to set off alarms.  this is all
>> 	archived, by the way.  the alarms could go off years
>> 	later.
>>
>> On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Iain Atkinson wrote:
>>
>> ]Ok
>> ]
>> ]if we can't do it publicly any suggestions on how we can do it?
>> ]
>> ]iain
>> ]
>> ]> -----Original Message-----
>> ]> From: c a l i b a n [mailto:caliban@sharon.net]
>> ]> Sent: 28 June 1999 22:28
>> ]> To: Iain Atkinson
>> ]> Cc: quattro@audifans.com
>> ]> Subject: Re: ETKA CD's
>> ]>
>> ]>
>> ]> On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Iain Atkinson wrote:
>> ]>
>> ]> ]Is Audi really going to be that worried by a relatively small
>> ]> group of pro
>> ]> ]Audi enthusiasts having a copy of their parts microfiche on CD.
>> ]>
>> ]>
>> ]> 	they could very well be upset at that.  there's a reason
>> ]> 	people copyright things.  the real question is:  is it
>> ]> 	worth the risk to blatantly, publicly, under a name that
>> ]> 	ends in .com, sell comyrighted information?
>> ]>
>> ]> The whole
>> ]> ]internet has been built in some way on people copying software,
>> ]>
>> ]> 	i'd like to see your statistics and sources for this
>> ]> 	statement.  even if it's true, it certainly wouldn't
>> ]> 	hold up in court to say that it's ok to steal someone's
>> ]> 	stuff because it's been done before, or because everybody
>> ]> 	does it.
>> ]>
>> ]> ]Audi I am
>> ]> ]sure have bigger battles to fight than worrying about a few
>> ]> CD's. I mean you
>> ]> ]can download it from an ftp server in Russia, why not put on
>> a better one
>> ]> ]closer to home?
>> ]>
>> ]> 	they might worry - it's about risk.  is the ftp server
>> ]> 	in russia authorized to have that?  if not, will russian
>> ]> 	law officials shut it down if requested?
>> ]>
>> ]> 	for disclaimer information - yes i have copies of things
>> ]> 	i have not paid for - softwware, music, whatever.  you're
>> ]> 	eright in that most people do this sort of thing.  the
>> ]> 	point i am raising is that it ups the ante to do it in
>> ]> 	public, for money, and may not be worth the additional
>> ]> 	risks involved.
>> ]>
>> ]> --
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>>
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