Certain members of this list might be mildly interested in the cover article of this months C&D, wherein a 4 car comparison test puts the Audi S4 at the head of the class (over 2nd place BMW M3, 3rd Saab 9-3 Viggen and 4th AMG Merc C43). -- The Murphy-Fahlgren Family Try to take over the world. efhome@adams.com Canton, MI, USA