This is an odd request, and I'm not at liberty to reveal where it came from, though it's interesting. Does anyone know of reliable tuners for the VW VR6 engine? I'm looking for good solid products that are reversible and produce proven and demonstrable results? Is there a better list for this question? -- Phil Payne UK Audi quattro Owners Club Phone: 0385 302803 Fax: 0870 0883933