In message <s7e5fb61.010@hlthsrc.com> "Eric Renneisen" writes: > BTW, I absoliutely _hate_ talking about someone in third person > who is within earshot. My apologies Phil. Much better than doing it out of earshot. -- Phil Payne UK Audi quattro Owners Club Phone: 0385 302803 Fax: 0870 0883933