Re: Heat Cycling New Pads?

["Gerry Snow" <gsnow@iea.com>]

I agree.  I've heard Pagid brake pads mentioned several times.  These must
be good brakes.  I've got sources for both Porterfield and Pagid, which I'll
contact tomorrow.  I have also heard really good things about Porterfield.
>From my observations, Ferodo have been around for a long time (I see their
banners trackside on Speedvision's Legends of Motorsport coverage of 1960s
Grand Prix at European circuits).  But I have heard that Ferodo pads (maybe
like Metalmasters) are hard on rotors.  But then again, its interesting how
such "wisdom" is based on hearsay and not on objective comparisons.  Anyway,
we'll see what happens next.  I'll be at the Audi Quattro Club Northwest
event at Portland in a couple of weeks, and I plan to push the (new) brake
pads hard again.

Best Regards,

Gerry Snow
Spokane, Washington, USA
84 4kq (will get Porterfield or Pagid pads)
67 Lotus Elan (maybe the 'classic' Ferodo pads)

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Kinsfather <tkinsfather@earthlink.net>
To: Quattro List <quattro@audifans.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 7:10 PM
Subject: RE: Heat Cycling New Pads?


>I am far from a track expert, but my .02 sense.
>I would not suggest taking performance advice from that vendor again. The
>RedBox's are well known as OEM replacement pads for street use, with the
>advantage of less dust. Very organic compound, good cold stop, O.K. street
>use, will fade quickly on the track(and street in my case). Sorry you had
to
>learn it that way. The Mintex race compound is rumored to be fair for the
>track. I would pursue the brands you mentioned plus some Ferodo, Pagid
>obviously. Wish I could give you some personal success story to help.
>
>Todd Kinsfather
>91 Corrado G60: blue/violet pearl, blk leather
>99 A6 Avant Q
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-quattro@audifans.com [mailto:owner-quattro@audifans.com]On
>> Behalf Of Gerry Snow
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 3:39 PM
>> To: Alexander van Gerbig; Quattro List
>> Subject: Re: Heat Cycling New Pads?
>>
>>
>> I just installed Mintex (Red Box) pads on my 84 4000q on Friday, together
>> with new Brembo cross-drilled rotors.  I heat cycled them by dragging the
>> brake pedal successively while driving in third gear at about
>> 30-35 mph.  I
>> did this about 5 or 6 times, with the last time or two enough so that I
>> could just smell the brakes getting hot.  Then I drove another 15
>> minutes or
>> so without touching the brakes so that they could cool down.  On Saturday
>> and Sunday, I took the car to the local road course for a 2-day
>> track event.
>> I drove hard and really hammered the brakes.  (The car was really
>> impressive
>> with the new H&R springs and other suspension bits.)  But with 2 days of
>> really high performance driving (and this was really driving at the limit
>> for about 250 miles), the pads had worn almost completely down!!  So,
>> despite what the vendor told me, I have concluded that the Mintex pads
are
>> really too soft for serious track duty.  I will probably replace this
week
>> with either Hawk or Porterfield pads.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Gerry Snow
>> Spokane, Washington, USA
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alexander van Gerbig <Audi_80@email.msn.com>
>> To: Quattro List <quattro@audifans.com>
>> Date: Monday, October 18, 1999 9:53 PM
>> Subject: Heat Cycling New Pads?
>>
>>
>> >    When I get new pads I should heat cycle right?  Get the news pads on
>> and
>> >rotors then go for a drive.  Try to avoid full stops.  Drag the pads
>> >slightly at highway speeds.  Get some warmth going then do some good
>> >stopping to burn up the nasty chemicals in the pads.  Don't stop all the
>> >way.  Sound right?  Anything to add?
>> >
>> >Thanks!
>> >
>> >Alexander van Gerbig
>> >'88 Audi 80 -- Koni Yellows, G&M Springs
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