RE: 1.8t in4000?

["Pat Dooley" <pdooley@gte.net>]

Excuse me, but doesn't the I5 MC turbo motor make 225HP with just a chip
upgrade?  How can you say this motor is being stretched?  The I5 has been
tuned to over 500 reliable HP.
You must be talking about the NA I5, but that's not a fair comparison.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-quattro@audifans.com [mailto:owner-quattro@audifans.com]On
> Behalf Of Alexander van Gerbig
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 1999 6:06 PM
> To: max dombroski; quattro@audifans.com; Brett Dikeman
> Subject: Re: 1.8t in4000?
>
>
>     Better stay in that bunker.  For a total price of $3600 you
> could have a
> factory new 1.8T 20v Motor, Dual Mass Flywheel, Intake Manifold, Exhaust
> Manifold, Turbo, Coil Packs, Wiring Harnesses, Fuel Injection, Water Pump,
> ECU, Air Mass Sensor, Hoses, Pressure Regulator Valve, Intercooler, and
> Shipping + Handling from Germany.  Now for that price a swap is warranted
> for any Audi that a person chooses.  Sure go buy an A4, $30,000, that is
> cost effective vs. $3600 plus swapping costs which will never
> reach to $30k.
> Plus some people want to do it for the pwoer and upgradability in the Audi
> they already own and love.  Take a 2.3 I5 and try to make it give 200+bhp
> cheaply and effectively.  Toss a Neuspeed K04 turbo kit on the new 1.8T
> motor and there is some real power, and the engine can handle much more.
> Sure a 3B swap would be just as nice, but go find me a factory
> new 3B or AAN
> for $3600 with all the goodies.
>     I can honestly say I would take a new motor over a used
> motor.  I would
> also rather buy an entire easily upgradable new motor and get power from
> that rather than spending over $3k to get cams, intake+exhaust, port the
> head, total seal rings, exhaust, and all the little tricks involved with
> streching bhp out of old high mileage engines.  If I ever get a 1.8T
> conversion done on my 80 I will surely have a ball on the track,
> or I could
> stick and spend way over what a new motor + swap on my I4 (3A) engine and
> possibly stretch it to 140bhp tops.  Got to think logically about
> power and
> what is the best way to obtain it.  New motor that can handle
> 250bhp easily
> or stretch a poor I5 to the ends and get 150bhp.
>
> Warmest regards,
>
> Alexander van Gerbig
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