Phil writes: In message <0.6315a9cd.2547468f@aol.com> QSHIPQ@aol.com writes: > ... We are getting close to the bite phenomenon. ... >>The same logic can be used to proved the existence of phlogiston. Phil: I might argue that Stahl knew a flame when he saw one, regardless of it's origin. In the spider bite, we know the origin. However, it too has created some phlogiston right here on this list.... Scott J