I must go with BCNU's statement.These cars are less of a trouble to own(speak:repair)then the 5k's,simply because they don't break as often.Dealer prices on parts are outrageous,but a lot of the service/maintenance stuff is available elsewhere.My wifes V8Q has 132k on it and so far,no problems! GARY 90 V8Q auto. 86 5KQT5spd. 86 5K Avant