RE: was cambelt/lifter noise solution

[Sachelle Babbar <sbabbar@iris.nyit.edu>]

pleased to have helped. Try at your next oil change using an excessive
amount because at change time, it's really easy to measure exactly how
much your putting in. I do about 6 total, I also prime the oil filter
before installation.

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*Steve                                             Sachelle Babbar
*'87  5000CS Turbo 5spd 1.3-2.0 bar             <SBABBAR@IRIS.NYIT.EDU>
*Cockpit adjustable wastegate, AudiSport badge
*
*Disclaimer:"Any information contained herein is based purely on my own
*personal experience and may not necessarily reflect yours. Use caution as
*your results may vary from mine."
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Iain Atkinson wrote:

> Hi Sachelle
> 
> Checked the oil and it was a bit low, then measured  5mm from the max mark
> and marked it with a file, filled up to that level, lifters now almost
> quiet. Well done great tip and no nasty side effects either,
> 
> Thanks very much for your help, if only everything on Audi's was this easy.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Iain
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Sachelle Babbar [mailto:sbabbar@iris.nyit.edu]
> Sent:	17 November 1999 22:03
> To:	Iain Atkinson
> Subject:	RE: was cambelt/lifter noise solution
> 
> It's a small amount over the line. I really don't use so much that seals
> are in danger (I used to run my old turbo like this. It had a larger oil
> capacity anyway due to its dual filter setup). Because the level is as the
> top and the rod is smooth (oil can't be captured to make a great reading),
> I'd judge it at 5mm (?) above full? I'l check for sure tomorrow.
> 
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> *Steve                                             Sachelle Babbar
> *'87  5000CS Turbo 5spd 1.3-2.0 bar             <SBABBAR@IRIS.NYIT.EDU>
> *Cockpit adjustable wastegate, AudiSport badge
> *
> *Disclaimer:"Any information contained herein is based purely on my own
> *personal experience and may not necessarily reflect yours. Use caution as
> *your results may vary from mine."
> ****************************************************************************
> ****
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Iain Atkinson wrote:
> 
> > Sachelle
> >
> > Interesting, I am a little concerned about over filling due to it blowing
> > the seals, I once over filled a car years ago and ended up with a lot of
> > smoke out the back, any ideas what 5.5 or 6 quarts is in Euro litres??????
> I
> > have heard that low oil can cause noisy lifters before, I guess I should
> > give it a try, whereabouts does it come on the dipstick??? Just for
> > reference.
> >
> > Thanks again for your kind interest and help.
> >
> > Iain
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Sachelle Babbar [mailto:sbabbar@iris.nyit.edu]
> > Sent:	17 November 1999 17:51
> > To:	Iain Atkinson
> > Cc:	Q List; mcji6es2@fs1.me.umist.ac.uk
> > Subject:	was cambelt/lifter noise solution
> >
> > My experience with tappet noise: really f'n annoying.
> > Solution: over fill the crankcase with motor oil. My experience with the
> > Porsche 944 Turbo's were that the factory fill amount was a might low for
> > high performance. Most people who know run 6 quarts in the case+the
> > galleys. I now use six quarts in my 5kt. "No new lifter noises". All the
> > old ones gone. On occasion, I may hear some on cold start up, but soon
> > disappears. Engine feels like it runs better and I have not seen any
> > negative effects from this amount of oil.
> >
> > I saw the dipstick was full, but noise. I slowly poured a bottle of oil
> > until I was at about 5.5 crancase quarts total. Noise disappeared.
> >
> >
> ****************************************************************************
> > *Steve                                             Sachelle Babbar
> > *'87  5000CS Turbo 5spd 1.3-2.0 bar             <SBABBAR@IRIS.NYIT.EDU>
> > *Cockpit adjustable wastegate, AudiSport badge
> > *
> > *Disclaimer:"Any information contained herein is based purely on my own
> > *personal experience and may not necessarily reflect yours. Use caution as
> > *your results may vary from mine."
> >
> ****************************************************************************
> > ****
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Iain Atkinson wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > First of all I would like thank Huw, Steve, Phil, Jim, Ed, Sachelle and
> > all
> > > others who have helped me with getting this problem resolved.
> > >
> > > 1. timing was sorted by going back to basics and setting the rotor arm
> on
> > > the TDC mark, and the mark being lined up in the bellhousing and back of
> > cam
> > > sprocket. Car started with no problem. Simple of matter of timing it
> > > correctly with my timing light. Car now feels like it's got a few more
> > > horses being set at what Audi intended with no pre ignition issues to
> > > contend with.
> > >
> > > 2. The loud tapping/knocking has gone so far, despite my best efforts to
> > > replicate it with some spirited driving. I am now left with what can be
> > > described as mild tappet noise, better than before ( it always did
> rattle
> > a
> > > bit). So the lifters seemed to cure the problem, although I rather think
> > > that there is some wear in the head due to the previous owners deferred
> > > maintenance policy. Maybe next year for a funky head to really make it
> > rock.
> > >
> > >
> > > Once again the list saves me a small fortune in labour costs, thanks
> > again.
> > >
> > >
> > > Iain
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
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