RE: was cambelt/lifter noise solution

["Iain Atkinson" <iain.atkinson@virgin.net>]

Hi Sachelle

Checked the oil and it was a bit low, then measured  5mm from the max mark
and marked it with a file, filled up to that level, lifters now almost
quiet. Well done great tip and no nasty side effects either,

Thanks very much for your help, if only everything on Audi's was this easy.

Cheers


Iain

-----Original Message-----
From:	Sachelle Babbar [mailto:sbabbar@iris.nyit.edu]
Sent:	17 November 1999 22:03
To:	Iain Atkinson
Subject:	RE: was cambelt/lifter noise solution

It's a small amount over the line. I really don't use so much that seals
are in danger (I used to run my old turbo like this. It had a larger oil
capacity anyway due to its dual filter setup). Because the level is as the
top and the rod is smooth (oil can't be captured to make a great reading),
I'd judge it at 5mm (?) above full? I'l check for sure tomorrow.

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*Steve                                             Sachelle Babbar
*'87  5000CS Turbo 5spd 1.3-2.0 bar             <SBABBAR@IRIS.NYIT.EDU>
*Cockpit adjustable wastegate, AudiSport badge
*
*Disclaimer:"Any information contained herein is based purely on my own
*personal experience and may not necessarily reflect yours. Use caution as
*your results may vary from mine."
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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Iain Atkinson wrote:

> Sachelle
>
> Interesting, I am a little concerned about over filling due to it blowing
> the seals, I once over filled a car years ago and ended up with a lot of
> smoke out the back, any ideas what 5.5 or 6 quarts is in Euro litres??????
I
> have heard that low oil can cause noisy lifters before, I guess I should
> give it a try, whereabouts does it come on the dipstick??? Just for
> reference.
>
> Thanks again for your kind interest and help.
>
> Iain
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Sachelle Babbar [mailto:sbabbar@iris.nyit.edu]
> Sent:	17 November 1999 17:51
> To:	Iain Atkinson
> Cc:	Q List; mcji6es2@fs1.me.umist.ac.uk
> Subject:	was cambelt/lifter noise solution
>
> My experience with tappet noise: really f'n annoying.
> Solution: over fill the crankcase with motor oil. My experience with the
> Porsche 944 Turbo's were that the factory fill amount was a might low for
> high performance. Most people who know run 6 quarts in the case+the
> galleys. I now use six quarts in my 5kt. "No new lifter noises". All the
> old ones gone. On occasion, I may hear some on cold start up, but soon
> disappears. Engine feels like it runs better and I have not seen any
> negative effects from this amount of oil.
>
> I saw the dipstick was full, but noise. I slowly poured a bottle of oil
> until I was at about 5.5 crancase quarts total. Noise disappeared.
>
>
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> *Steve                                             Sachelle Babbar
> *'87  5000CS Turbo 5spd 1.3-2.0 bar             <SBABBAR@IRIS.NYIT.EDU>
> *Cockpit adjustable wastegate, AudiSport badge
> *
> *Disclaimer:"Any information contained herein is based purely on my own
> *personal experience and may not necessarily reflect yours. Use caution as
> *your results may vary from mine."
>
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>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Iain Atkinson wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > First of all I would like thank Huw, Steve, Phil, Jim, Ed, Sachelle and
> all
> > others who have helped me with getting this problem resolved.
> >
> > 1. timing was sorted by going back to basics and setting the rotor arm
on
> > the TDC mark, and the mark being lined up in the bellhousing and back of
> cam
> > sprocket. Car started with no problem. Simple of matter of timing it
> > correctly with my timing light. Car now feels like it's got a few more
> > horses being set at what Audi intended with no pre ignition issues to
> > contend with.
> >
> > 2. The loud tapping/knocking has gone so far, despite my best efforts to
> > replicate it with some spirited driving. I am now left with what can be
> > described as mild tappet noise, better than before ( it always did
rattle
> a
> > bit). So the lifters seemed to cure the problem, although I rather think
> > that there is some wear in the head due to the previous owners deferred
> > maintenance policy. Maybe next year for a funky head to really make it
> rock.
> >
> >
> > Once again the list saves me a small fortune in labour costs, thanks
> again.
> >
> >
> > Iain
> >
> >
>
>