FW: was cambelt/lifter noise solution

["Iain Atkinson" <iain.atkinson@virgin.net>]

-----Original Message-----
From:	Sachelle Babbar [mailto:sbabbar@iris.nyit.edu]
Sent:	17 November 1999 22:03
To:	Iain Atkinson
Subject:	RE: was cambelt/lifter noise solution

It's a small amount over the line. I really don't use so much that seals are
in danger (I used to run my old turbo like this. It had a larger oil
capacity anyway due to its dual filter setup). Because the level is as the
top and the rod is smooth (oil can't be captured to make a great reading),
I'd judge it at 5mm (?) above full? I'l check for sure tomorrow.

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*Steve                                             Sachelle Babbar
*'87  5000CS Turbo 5spd 1.3-2.0 bar             <SBABBAR@IRIS.NYIT.EDU>
*Cockpit adjustable wastegate, AudiSport badge
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*Disclaimer:"Any information contained herein is based purely on my own
*personal experience and may not necessarily reflect yours. Use caution as
*your results may vary from mine."
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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Iain Atkinson wrote:
> Sachelle
>
> Interesting, I am a little concerned about over filling due to it blowing
> the seals, I once over filled a car years ago and ended up with a lot of
> smoke out the back, any ideas what 5.5 or 6 quarts is in Euro litres??????
I
> have heard that low oil can cause noisy lifters before, I guess I should
> give it a try, whereabouts does it come on the dipstick??? Just for
> reference.
>
> Thanks again for your kind interest and help.
>
> Iain
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Sachelle Babbar [mailto:sbabbar@iris.nyit.edu]
> Sent:	17 November 1999 17:51
> To:	Iain Atkinson
> Cc:	Q List; mcji6es2@fs1.me.umist.ac.uk
> Subject:	was cambelt/lifter noise solution
>
> My experience with tappet noise: really f'n annoying.
> Solution: over fill the crankcase with motor oil. My experience with the
> Porsche 944 Turbo's were that the factory fill amount was a might low for
> high performance. Most people who know run 6 quarts in the case+the
> galleys. I now use six quarts in my 5kt. "No new lifter noises". All the
> old ones gone. On occasion, I may hear some on cold start up, but soon
> disappears. Engine feels like it runs better and I have not seen any
> negative effects from this amount of oil.
>
> I saw the dipstick was full, but noise. I slowly poured a bottle of oil
> until I was at about 5.5 crancase quarts total. Noise disappeared.
>
>
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> *Steve                                             Sachelle Babbar
> *'87  5000CS Turbo 5spd 1.3-2.0 bar             <SBABBAR@IRIS.NYIT.EDU>
> *Cockpit adjustable wastegate, AudiSport badge
> *
> *Disclaimer:"Any information contained herein is based purely on my own
> *personal experience and may not necessarily reflect yours. Use caution as
> *your results may vary from mine."
>
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> On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Iain Atkinson wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > First of all I would like thank Huw, Steve, Phil, Jim, Ed, Sachelle and
> all
> > others who have helped me with getting this problem resolved.
> >
> > 1. timing was sorted by going back to basics and setting the rotor arm
on
> > the TDC mark, and the mark being lined up in the bellhousing and back of
> cam
> > sprocket. Car started with no problem. Simple of matter of timing it
> > correctly with my timing light. Car now feels like it's got a few more
> > horses being set at what Audi intended with no pre ignition issues to
> > contend with.
> >
> > 2. The loud tapping/knocking has gone so far, despite my best efforts to
> > replicate it with some spirited driving. I am now left with what can be
> > described as mild tappet noise, better than before ( it always did
rattle
> a
> > bit). So the lifters seemed to cure the problem, although I rather think
> > that there is some wear in the head due to the previous owners deferred
> > maintenance policy. Maybe next year for a funky head to really make it
> rock.
> >
> >
> > Once again the list saves me a small fortune in labour costs, thanks
> again.
> >
> >
> > Iain
> >
> >
>
>