disconnected at OXS counter and spun cable with drill, needle moved. pulled cable from tranny, square end not attached to spiral flexi part any more... replaced w/ 79k spare. These cars just keep falling apart. That cable only had about 286k on it. -- Huw Powell http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi/ 82 Audi Coupe; 84 4kq; 85 Coupe GT; 73 F250 http://people.ne.mediaone.net/audi/thoughts.htm