Re: Snows for 5kcstq

[Lawrence C Leung <l.leung@juno.com>]

Just for fun one day we had a late snow in Central NY. It was fresh (and
had a bad mouth too) Okay, now the just for fun part. I didn't have to go
anywhere and I had already switched back to 195/60-14 Dunlop D60A2's on
my '84 4KQ, so I figured I would compare the performance of these so
called "all-season-performance" tires against my snow tires, 185/65-14
Kelly Pacemarks. Assesment: 	
	Stable, but much slower on acceleration
	Braking, again slides noticably more than the snows
	Turn in, WHAT? You expect them to turn at the same speed as the snows?
	Drop Throttle Turning, (So that's what was behind me!!!) Easy to spin in
this situ. 
Note, this was a test to compare the tires, no traffic nor poles nor
trees nor fuzzy animals were harmed in this test. Basically, things that
were not a thought running the snow tires were WELL BEYOND the limits of
the All-Season(?) tires.

Verdict: If there are regular snows in your area - DRIVE on SNOW TIRES. 
The margin you 	create may be your own, especially since there are so
many other brilliant citizens 	have decided that they don't need them!


On Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:15:35 -0800 (PST) Todd Phenneger
<phen9461@uidaho.edu> writes:
>Tell me about it.  The first day it snowed here I was leaving Moscow
>driving North to Spokane for the weekend.  (90 miles)  Int he first 
>20
>mile stretch we passed 3-seperate "incidents"  two of them in the 
>first 2
>miles.   The first "incident" was an Eagle Talon AWD that went off 
>the
>road and flipped for no apparent reason.  jsut skid marks of fish 
>tailing
>and of the road.  Well, I saw NO tread on teh tires.  Give me a break, 
>AWD
>doesnt mean you can drive on snow with totally bald tires.  The second 
>was
>an SUV that appeared to be going to fast, tried to pass a lesser car 
>and
>proceded to run it off the road flipping the other ca.r  (Just my 
>opinion
>judging byt he fact that the SUV hit the car on the Driver Rear)  
>	hmph.  I'll ALWAYS run snows in the winter.  I jsut wish 
>everyone
>would. In this climate at least.   
>l8r
>
>	Todd Phenneger
>	1983 ur-q / black / getting a MC
>	1984 4000 Turbo quattro (Faster than your average 4kq)
>	1987 4000 quattro / Saphire Metallic Blue/ Girlfriend's
>	1996 A6q / Volcano / Dads Car
>   *****1985 5kt / PARTING OUT!
>  *	http://www.uidaho.edu/~phen9461/motorsports.htm
>
>On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Erik Addy wrote:
>
>> > 
>> > I got them in 195/65R15, T rated.
>> > 
>> > Thanks to everyone for all of their suggestions, and let's keep 
>it
>> > friendly, if possible.
>> 
>> Hey, I'm just glad there is one more car using winter tires!
>> If you want friendly, go to the torsen list!!
>> 
>> Just kidding,
>> Erik 
>> 
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