Re: Type 44 Single Pass Intercoolers in US? Mac-07 ECU

[Todd Phenneger <phen9461@uidaho.edu>]

THANKS for the reply,
	I appreciate it.  Sorry it took me so long to get back to
you.  Been busy troubleshooitng my latest problem.  Grrrr.

> Todd, I safely ran well over 2.0 bar on my old kh with my wastegate mod
> and no electronics alterations. There was no sensed knock nor was there
> anything audible. It took me a loose sensor in my current mc engined car
> to know for sure that the sound of knock in type 44's isn't deadened by
> the time it reach the pass compartment.

	i've heard that the turbo engines Knock sound is different than a
NA motor.  I can hear knock in a VW 4-cyl orany other NA motor from a mile
away.  but on a trubo motor I've never heard it.  (never owned one before
know)  Some say its much higher pitched and faster whatever that
means.  Every time I hit the gas I hear a rattling int h4e engine
compartment.  But I'm 995 sure this is the WG Freq valve or the WG itself
doing its thing.  If I recognize it in NA cars will I in the turbo
motor.  ESp in a 4kq where theere is no Sound deadenign. :-0
	anyhow, I believe that a post like this is what first make me
think that the KH didn't have the early fuel cutoff.  How do you get 2.0
bar if the FP cuts in at 1.65 when you claim no electronic
modifications.  You had to have modified SOMETHING to get that 2.0 bar to
keep the computer from cutting in.  what did you do???
 
> The kh: indicated 2.0 bar, external gauge: 2.2 approx. No knock and just
> kept making power past redline. I'm still trying to duplicate the feel.
> Felt something like the old body style Q45 with the more powerful motor. I
> ran it in this confugation for a couple of years and when I removed the
> head after wrecking the car, I was astonished to find that there was only
> a light skin of a ridge at the top of the cylinders, bore was very
> continuous throughout, and the cylinders appeared to have the factory
> cross/honing marks! Over 150k was on this motor and about 60k with high
> boost. Every start from a redlight was a full throttle one.

	sounds like you drive like I do.  I love feeling
acceleration.  And I'm not afraid to show everyone else.  I'm not crazy or
anything but I love Freeway On Ramps.  Always have to distance myself
fromt he guys behind me.  Cant wait now that I have a car that a Toyota
Pickup cant pass on those on-ramps.  Thats the ONLY time I miss my old 65'
Buick.  300hp and over 4000 lb/ft of torque was sure fun.  :-)  But a Dump
Truck could probably corner better. :-)  Anyhow, I would like to run 2.0
bar after I get the IC installed so please, let me knwo how to do this if
you could.

> It's funny; the same mods made to my mc don't produce what feels nearly as
> powerful results (note the wording feel). Additionally, the computer
> appears to defeat whatever mods are made. The wgfv doesn't allow more than
> 1.5 bar (makes sense), but sags off idle response, delaying the onset of
> HIGH boost. I hope to find some fuel/boost/spark maps to be able to
> compare them to the factory manual maps I have for the mac 07. I may make
> the switch to the mac 07 for arguements sake and see what happens. May be
> the kick I'm looking for in terms of more timing where I need it.

	Hmmm, that would be interesting.  I plan to try the MC cam int he
Kh to see if that gives mroe power as it appers to be more aggressive but
who knows.  
	hey, I saw that you are building your own IC???  cool.  Keepme
updated.  I still need to search for your original post.  I still have to
sift through old messages fromt he weekend. I ws plannign to use a
Mitsubishi conquest unit that is Aluminum and single pass.  Not sure how
good it is but its better than nothing. :-)
	l8r
		Todd