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Re: FS: '87 4kq Turbo



I remember letting '91 200 through on the straight at Road America in '98,
thinking that I could keep up with him in the twisties in my '85 Ur-Q
(unmodified with Yoko AVS Intermediates).  That was a humbling experience,
although the 200 was lowered and was running R-1s.  Cut me down to size real
quick!

John Corbs

----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Phenneger <phen9461@uidaho.edu>
To: Pat Martin <mardkins@email.msn.com>
Cc: quattro list <quattro@audifans.com>; TM <mizutanit@mindspring.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: FS: '87 4kq Turbo


> well yea,
> But your 4kq is FAR from stock.  (springs, shocks, tires,
> wheels)  but I will agree that a stock 4kq will kill almost any stock type
> 44 in the twisties.  However, most people have kept type 44's as Luxo
> Cruisers.  With springs, shocks, tires, wheels they perform
> admirably.  I've only been to PIR once but when there, no one could keep
> up with the Bennett's 5ktq.  Granted he had slicks but on that straight he
> left the ur-q's etc int he dust and in the corners they didnt gain any on
> him.
> Also, in the corners adams 5ktq and Alex-s 200 fly.  Now with all
> that weight Braking is a serious problem (hmmm, that weight thing keeps
> coming up doesnt it :-)  but I think on a fast track they are pretty even
> matches.  5ktq faster on the straight, 4ktq faster out of corners
> (weight) and inthe tighter twisties.  Again, with both cars
> setup.  Afterall, if audi had wanted to they could have entered the ur-q
> into the Trans Am series instead of the 200 couldn't they have??  (well
> maybe not, they werent importing it anymore so I recind that)  but all the
> Big body audi's (200/v8) have done Admirably in classes that considered
> them Much to big and heavy.
> So I still woldnt call them; a pig.  But that siad, I'll take my
> 4ktq anyday ln the track, I think they are just plain More FUN to
> drive. :-)
> See you at PIR next year so we can whip up on some Type
> 44's. :-)  I have a grudge match with Adam and his 5ktq to settle.  Now
> that I have the power to try to keep up we'll see who is faster. :-)
> l8r
>
> Todd Phenneger
> 1983 ur-q / black / getting a MC
> 1984 4000 Turbo quattro (Faster than your average 4kq)
> 1987 4000 quattro / Saphire Metallic Blue/ Girlfriend's
> 1996 A6q / Volcano / Dads Car
>    *****1985 5kt / PARTING OUT!
>   * http://www.uidaho.edu/~phen9461/motorsports.htm
>
> On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Pat Martin wrote:
>
> > Even on a track like PIR the 4ktq is way faster.  My stock motor was
faster
> > than a stock 5kt at Portland.  They could catch you on the main straight
but
> > were so slow in the corners lap times would be a second or 2 less.
> >
> > And I have driven a 5kqt on that track and it is a PIG.  It is a great
> > highway cruiser but its weight is a real liability in handling.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> >
> > > However at a wide open track like PIR I think the 200/5ktq is
> > > actualy potentially faster just due to aerodynamics.  ANd I owuldnt'
agree
> > > with Pats term of calling them Dogs or whatever it was.  they are
heavy
> > > but set up well they can still fly.  But they just dont feel like the
> > > 4kq.  Its a much more personal car.
> > > l8r
> > > todd
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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