cam seal

[Brandon Rogers]

Not to drag this on too long - but it's not leaking where the cam shaft goes
through - it appears to be leaking between the "seal" ( I say that becuase
it's not really a seal right now) and the head....

thanks again-

Brandon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bernie Benz" <b.benz at charter.net>
To: "Brandon Rogers" <brogers at terrix.com>
Cc: "200q20V mailing list" <200q20v at audifans.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: cam seal


>
> > From: "Brandon Rogers" <brogers at terrix.com>
>
> > Bernie-
> > Thanks for the reply- I did actually think about that option.  My
thinking
> > is that this seal is not old - it's only got about 6000mi +/- on it, or
1.5
> > yrs, and I think it's had a very slow leak from day one.  So I'm
thinking it
> > doesn't need to be restored , but replaced because maybe it was damaged
when
> > it was put on or maybe it is defective...
> Brandon,
> That's one of the potential problems of replacing seals without polishing
> the shaft at the same time.  It's just coincidence if the new sealing lip
> ends up in the exact axial location on the shaft as was the old one,
either
> side possibably being incompatable with the new lip.  So there's a slight
> chance that a new seal will not improve the situtation.  DFI if IAB!
>
> Bernie
>
> >
> > with that in mind - new thoughts?
> >
> > thanks again-
> >
> > Brandon
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bernie Benz" <b.benz at charter.net>
> > To: "Brandon Rogers" <brogers at terrix.com>
> > Cc: "200q20V mailing list" <200q20v at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 10:59 AM
> > Subject: Re: cam seal
> >
> >
> >> Brandon,
> >> I've not previously responded to your thread, but why replace any
rotary
> >> shaft seal without first trying the seal restorer treatment?  I have
never
> >> replaced a rotary shaft seal in engine, tranny, or rearend in any of 4
> > Audis
> >> totaling ove 700K.  The stuff works for me!
> >>
> >> Bernie
> >>
> >>> From: "Brandon Rogers" <brogers at terrix.com>
> >>> Organization: Terrix Financial Corporation
> >>> Reply-To: Brandon Rogers <brogers at terrix.com>
> >>> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:36:49 -0700
> >>> To: "200 20V List" <200q20V at audifans.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: cam seal
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the replies so far- much appreciated.  What I hadn't
> > mentioned was
> >>> that I've already got the all the covers, cam pullet, etc off.
> >>>
> >>> I guess my dilemma is what is the bigger PITA?? - trying to get the
cam
> > seal
> >>> out with the valve cover in place ( I don't have a puller - was going
to
> >>> [carefully -duh] drill a couple very small holes, screw in a couple
> > machine
> >>> screws and pull out) or go ahead and pull the valve cover off as well
as
> > that
> >>> front cam cap - I'm assuming then the seal would pull right off no
> > problems.
> >>> If I pull the VC - can I re-use the rubber gasket it's probably only
got
> > 1500
> >>> miles on it....
> >>>
> >>> as an aside, yes everything else is pretty new - WP, TB etc all have
> > probably
> >>> less than 6000 mi...actually so is this cam seal but apparently it
> > doesn't
> >>> realize it's supposed to be a _seal_...
> >>>
> >>> TIA-
> >>>
> >>> Brandon
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Brandon Rogers
> >>> To: 200 20V List
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:54 AM
> >>> Subject: cam seal
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Guys-
> >>> I'm in the midst of an exhaust manifold swap and decided that while I
> > was in
> >>> there I'd see what was causing a small oil leak that leaves one or two
> > drops
> >>> of oil on the ground at shutdown and over the last year or so has
really
> >>> gunked up the lower part of the motor.  Anyway it looks like the cam
> > seal is
> >>> one of the culprits (in addition to a plug in the oil galley).
> >>>
> >>> My question:  To replace the cam seal can I leave the valve cover in
> > place?
> >>>
> >>> Also - I'd like to go ahead and clean up as much of the oil and dirt
as
> >>> possible while the EM is off and there is better access - any
> > suggestions for
> >>> a good method?  Or should I wait til it's all back together, then run
> > over to
> >>> a local wand car wash, spray some degreaser/engine cleaner in there
and
> > then
> >>> use the sprayer?
> >>>
> >>> thx-
> >>>
> >>> Brandon
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