hard start issue

David Johnson dave20 at earthlink.net
Fri Nov 19 17:34:50 PST 2010


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On Nov 19, 2010, at 5:27 PM, robert weinberg <centaurus3200 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> gold will prove to be yet another bubble. don't bother ;-)
> 
> see ya,
> Robby
> 
> From: David Johnson <dave20 at earthlink.net>
> To: robert weinberg <centaurus3200 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "PeterBergin at aol.com" <PeterBergin at aol.com>; "200q20v at audifans.com" <200q20v at audifans.com>; Shayne P <mysuperpersonalmail at gmail.com>; paul green <paul.13.green at gmail.com>
> Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 5:27:04 PM
> Subject: Re: hard start issue
> 
> S6 V8 I lust for some day soon, after I hit lotto though, or sell the house and buy a small log cabin with large barn and invest my life's savings in gold...
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Nov 19, 2010, at 2:39 PM, robert weinberg <centaurus3200 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Pete,
>> 
>> naw, just kidding on the honda.
>> 
>> my car has 116k - but acts like it has 316k ;-)
>> 
>> Robby
>> 
>> From: "PeterBergin at aol.com" <PeterBergin at aol.com>
>> To: centaurus3200 at yahoo.com
>> Cc: 200q20v at audifans.com
>> Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 2:26:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: hard start issue
>> 
>> Naw!  Mines got 238k on it.  Drives me nuts at times, however driving a Honda would drive me nuts all the time.
>>  
>> Next one (when I can afford it) will be a 2002-2003 S6.
>> Fuel pump ( I have two Avant's and been in there many times) is pretty strait forward , buy the tool!
>>  
>> Just make sure you look closely at how the sending unit wire and float go back in.  Long story short, last time I was in there I put it in the wrong place, when the gauge got to 1/4, float got hung up on the fuel line and I ran out of gas.  I have not done the conversion to the new style pump (found a stock one about 6 years ago.  Should take 1-1 1/2 hours with at an easy pace.
>>  
>> Good Luck
>> Pete
>>  
>> In a message dated 11/19/2010 3:34:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, centaurus3200 at yahoo.com writes:
>> i really should have bought a honda ;-)
>> 
>> From: "PeterBergin at aol.com" <PeterBergin at aol.com>
>> To: centaurus3200 at yahoo.com
>> Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 1:10:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: hard start issue
>> 
>> Yep!
>>  
>> In a message dated 11/19/2010 11:13:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, centaurus3200 at yahoo.com writes:
>> Thanks Pete!
>> 
>> let's hope it's the FPR.
>> 
>> if it's the check valve - i have to remove that whole tank sending unit anyway, right?
>> 
>> Robby
>> 
>> From: "PeterBergin at aol.com" <PeterBergin at aol.com>
>> To: centaurus3200 at yahoo.com; 200q20v at audifans.com
>> Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 8:08:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: hard start issue
>> 
>> No, the pump is in the bottom of the tank, just allot easier if your not up to your wrist in cold gas.  Remember do disconnect the battery first.
>> Pete
>>  
>>  
>> In a message dated 11/18/2010 6:33:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, centaurus3200 at yahoo.com writes:
>> Thanks Pete!
>> 
>> if the tank is near full - i take it you need to do it outside so you don't blow up your garage (and yourself)? ;-)
>> 
>> i suppose it's still a good idea to do it outside even with an empty tank. good thing i live in cali ;-)
>> 
>> From: "PeterBergin at aol.com" <PeterBergin at aol.com>
>> To: centaurus3200 at yahoo.com; 200q20v at audifans.com
>> Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 4:08:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: hard start issue
>> 
>> Good luck finding a direct fit pump, as far as I know the style has changed.  If you can get just the check valve it is pretty easy. (make sure tank is near empty)  Had to do my Avant outdoors with a full tank and a
>>  -10 January day.  The correct tool to twist lock the pump helps allot!  But is doable with out it.
>>  
>> Pete 
>>  
>> In a message dated 11/18/2010 4:33:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, centaurus3200 at yahoo.com writes:
>> doing a little more research,
>> 
>> it looks like you can access the fuel pump from trunk? so no need to pull the 
>> tank?
>> 
>> http://www.sjmautotechnik.com/trouble_shooting/20Vfuelpump.htm
>> 
>> if so, that's a relief! i had to pull the fricken gas tank when i replaced the 
>> fuel pump on my old Ford Taurus SHO!
>> 
>> i'll let you all know what happens after we pressure test the fuel system this 
>> weekend.
>> 
>> if it is the pump - is the standard bosch still the best bet? has anybody tried 
>> a Walbro 255lph? that's a lot of flow - but i figure not a bad idea with the 034 
>> chip, eh? and it's a fair amount cheaper than the bosch pumps.
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Robby
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: robert weinberg <centaurus3200 at yahoo.com>
>> To: 200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
>> Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 1:10:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: hard start issue
>> 
>> question - even if it's the check valve - do you have to remove the fuel pump to 
>> 
>> replace it?
>> 
>> if so, isn't removing the fuel pump a serious pain in the ass?  obviously, i'd 
>> replace the pump while i'm in there...
>> 
>> Robby
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: robert weinberg <centaurus3200 at yahoo.com>
>> To: 200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
>> Sent: Thu, November 18, 2010 1:04:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: hard start issue
>> 
>> thanks for all the suggestions!
>> 
>> i hope it's just the check valve. will pressure test the system this weekend and 
>> 
>> 
>> report back.
>> 
>> Robby
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Mike Sylvester <mike at urq20v.com>
>> To: robert weinberg <centaurus3200 at yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 11:45:52 AM
>> Subject: RE: hard start issue
>> 
>> Possible fuel pump check valve.
>> Fuel leaks back to tank and has to be pumped back up.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
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>> > -------- Original Message --------
>> > Subject: hard start issue
>> > From: robert weinberg <centaurus3200 at yahoo.com>
>> > Date: Wed, November 17, 2010 12:27 pm
>> > To: 200q20V mailing list <200q20v at audifans.com>
>> > Cc: Shayne P <mysuperpersonalmail at gmail.com>, DAVID JOHNSON
>> > <dave20 at earthlink.net>
>> > 
>> > 
>> > hi all,
>> > 
>> > fairly new phenomenon in the last couple of days. my 200 used to just fire 
>> >right 
>> >
>> > up.
>> > 
>> > the car starts, but now it takes 2-3 seconds of cranking - with the throttle 
>> > partially open, before it catches. once running, the engine idles smooth and 
>> >the 
>> >
>> > car runs perfectly fine.
>> > 
>> > i'm fine with it - but don't want to get stuck at some point. it still pops 
>> > right off once the engine is warm.
>> > 
>> > any ideas?
>> > 
>> > thanks,
>> > Robby
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
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