[BiturboS4] Blown Turbos (Non-Chipped S4) - Update

Thu Apr 10 16:04:24 EDT 2003

Sorry to hear of the problems..  Although quite expensive, this
may be a good opportunity to upgrade to KO4's.. ??  There's a
twin set in the AW classifieds that someone is trying to
sell--he's asking 'best offer'..  just a thought..

Regardless, hope it all works out to your favor..

Oh, and regarding the little 'polemic', I'll have to agree with
you... But regardless, my prayers are with the soldiers/families
and other innocent ones affected..

--- j y <jimnetpa at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bruce,
>
> Thanks for the advice. At this point, there is no
> record of me inquiring about strange noises under my
> hood until today. I can guarantee you that AUDI is
> going to use TODAY as my day of record.
>
> That being said - I am SORRY - this is a well known
> and documented problem. I will resort to trickery to
> get Audi USA to honor mechanical defect - NOT AS A
> RESULT OF ABUSE (the common claim of manufacturers).
>
> The boost on this car never has NEVER been enhanced (I
> must admit that I was planning to do so - but this
> turbo failure got in the way).
>
> So, that being said - in my opinion - it's is
> unreasonable for a manufacturer to try and weasle out
> of a claim when the machine is just 2k mi over the
> warranty expiration - that is just TOO close - like
> horse shoes and hand grenades. If I have to go the
> "lemon law" route - I will. Too many people are aware
> of the S4's reputation for turbo failure.
>
> In fact, the guys at AWE said "that even the late
> 2001s and 2002s have had turbo failure." Rule of thumb
> was, the 2000s and early 2001s were suspect.
>
> I will not accept anything LESS than 2 new turbos and
> plumbing under warranty!
>
> BTW, the car is sitting in my driveway - it will not
> be operated until April 16th - when I drive it to the
> dealer.
>
> In the meantime, I am driving my ALT (not up on my
> German spelling - probably misspelled) PORSCHE. Thank
> God - it's still ticking after 125k mi (on the
> original turbo - been chipped for 5k mi - mainly keep
> it at stock boost w/the Greddy Boost controller)and a
> new body (kit). It wasn't meant to be my every day car
> - thatwas what the S4 was suppoed to be.
>
> jy
>
> --- Bruce Mendel <brucem105 at comcast.net> wrote:
> > Get Audi USA involved and on the record now.....if
> > you drive around till
> > 4/16, they may say you made the condition get worse
> > and/or more expensive to
> > repair. Tell Audi you started hearing the noise
> > PRIOR to expiration of the
> > warranty, but were told when calling casually that
> > turbos make whistling
> > noises, and it was normal, and to call/visit if it
> > got worse.
> >
> > It got worse, you are trying to visit, and this is a
> > known issue which you
> > expect them to take care of if in fact it turns out
> > to be blown turbos.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "j y" <jimnetpa at yahoo.com>
> > To: "biturbos4" <biturbos4 at audifans.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 4:52 PM
> > Subject: [BiturboS4] Blown Turbos (Non-Chipped S4) -
> > Update
> >
> >
> > > Well Folks,
> > >
> > > My worst fear was confirmed today. Before taking
> > my
> > > beloved Y2K Imola S4 to the Audi dealer - I opted
> > to
> > > get an INDEPENDENT opinion - first.
> > >
> > > While doing some other work (at 52.9k mi - it's
> > out of
> > > warranty) on my S4, I asked AWE (reputable Audi
> > Tuner
> > > that is well known) to confirm my suspicions about
> > the
> > > HIGH pitched siren like whine coming from my
> > engine
> > > compartment when acclerating (becomes very
> > noticeable
> > > at 2k RPMs and above).
> > >
> > > Their professional opinion - Your S4 didn't throw
> > any
> > > VAG codes BUT - IT HAS NO BOOST TO SPEAK OF - PLUS
> > THE
> > > HIGH PITCHED WHINE - Buddy - We think you blew
> > your
> > > turbo(s)- Call AUDI - since you are so close to
> > the
> > > warranty expiration and you've NEVER CHIPPED the
> > car.
> > >
> > > I called the Audi dealer who sold me the car and
> > has
> > > serviced it from the beginning. Their response -
> > "YOU
> > > ARE THE FIRST 2.7 to REPORT THIS PROBLEM TO US.
> > CAN WE
> > > CALL YOU BACK?"
> > >
> > > Approximately 1/2 later, I receive a call from the
> > > Service Rep (the one who took my call originally).
> > > Again, the conversation goes like this:
> > >
> > > AUDI: "SIR - AGAIN, WE'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED THIS
> > > PROBLEM WITH 2.7 ENGINES."
> > >
> > > ME: Yeah..well Audi World.com is littered with
> > emails
> > > from 2.7 engine owners who have blown turbos and
> > it's
> > > well documented. It's been traced to oil inlet and
> > > other associated problems.
> > >
> > > AUDI: "CAN U HOLD FOR A MINUTE?"
> > >
> > > ME: Sure.
> > >
> > > AUDI: "HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S A BLOWN TURBO?"
> > >
> > > ME: I had an inpendent shop look at the car. AWE.
> > You
> > > know them (this dealer and AWE have done some work
> > in
> > > the past).
> > >
> > > AUDI: "WELL..CAN U BRING THE CAR TO US ON APRIL
> > 16th
> > > FOR DIAGNOSIS?"
> > >
> > > ME: Only..if I get a loaner car
> > >
> > > AUDI: "OK..IF IT IS A BLOWN TURBO..THE BEST WE CAN
> > DO
> > > IS 50% ON PARTS/LABOR" - Note: They have NOT even
> > seen
> > > the car at this point - but they did pull my
> > > maintenance history up on their computer.
> > >
> > > ME: ok...April 16th..Loaner Car....I AM NOT
> > ACCEPTING
> > > A 50/50 DEAL...YOU COMPLETE YOUR DIAGNOSIS ON
> > APRIL
> > > 16th...THEN WE TALK ABOUT RESPONSIBILITY...THIS
> > CAR
> > > "NEVER" HAS BEEN CHIPPED or HAD THE BOOST
> > INCREASED.
> > > THERE ARE MANY POSTINGS ON AUDI WORLD ABOUT S4
> > TURBO
> > > FAILURE. I AM ONLY 2k MI OUT OF WARRANTY. I
> > FOLLOWED
> > > "ALL" AUDI RECOMMEDED MAINTENANCE - AT YOUR
> > > DEALERSHIP. I DO NOT FEEL ANY LIABILITY HERE."
> > >
> > > AUDI: "SEE YOU ON APRIL 16th."
> > >
> > > Stay tuned boyz and gurlz.
> > >
> > > jy
> > > 00 S4 Aggressive Imola
> > > 86 951 Porsche
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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