034 EFI
Nate Stuart
newt at newtsplace.com
Tue Dec 4 14:16:15 EST 2001
> Wow, good info. If this is easier to get running than the stock CIS, then
> it might make sense for me to put it in at the same time the long block
> goes into the 4kstq project. My worry is mainly getting it to pass smog,
> the visual inspection portion. I have to both title and register my car,
> since it hasn't ran since I bought it. I couldn't get it changed into my
> name due to no smog check due to not running.
Hmm, I don't have any help for you there. The only 'smog' check we have here
in Maine is a visual inspection that there is a catalytic converter.
> I see that the stock intake air temp sensor is not usable. Where do you
> mount the new one? Can you use the existing location in the
> intercooler, if it is being used in the conversion? And even if you can,
is
> it the best place to take the reading?
I chose to drill out a spot in the IM and screwed the sensor right into the
IM (very easy to do, the sensor is a standard pipe thread).
Check out:
http://www.newtsplace.com/90tq/imageview.php?mode=view&album=intake&pic=cone
.jpg&dispsize=640
To see it mounted, not a very good pic, but you'll get the idea...
> On the fuel rail, it looks like that Force company offers the option of
> sending in your manifold to have the injector fittings or hole machined in
> the proper location. It sounds easy enough to do it at home as you did.
You don't need to machine the manifold at all. You replace the original CIS
inserts in the head with the EFI variant, then the injectors reside soley in
the head. You do need to drill out the hole in the fuel rail, but that is
very straight forward to do, an I just tapped the ends of the rail with a
1/4" NPT tap, and used some 1/4"NPT->-06AN adaptors.
> Also, just to confirm. The fuel rail you ended up using came from
> "Fodge Engineering", and the link you provide for similar units is "Force
> Fuel Injection", and these are not related, right? Basically Dan Fodge
> doesn't have a website, so you're providing linkage to similar products?
Exactly.
> And lastly, the reason why there's no cam trigger setup for the efi is
> because on the 90's you can use the stock hall sender for this. On
> 5kcstq or 200tq flywheel and CIS, you can't do this and have to put your
> own trigger on, right?
The flywheel really has nothing to do with it (for my application anyway)
there are no sensors picking up any signals off of it. If you do use a MC
computer for timing, then yes, you will have to setup the 5 timing pins and
a sensor to watch them wiz by. I don't think I would really want to go
through the hassle of installing the entire MAC-11 just for the timing. I
would hit up a junkyard and find a NA 5 banger with knock sensing and grab
what you need to get a much simpler ign in your 4k(t;)q.
> So, to put this system in my '85 4ksq, I'll have to include the MC-1
> ignition system from the 5kt to ensure that its knock sensing and such
> capabilities are included. Another way to go would be to just use the
> stock 4ksq ignition system? I suppose if I'm using a 200tq flywheel,
> then I'd have to swap over anyways, right?
Like I said, if you keep the 4kq, or other NA ign. system then you will not
need any sensors on the flywheel at all, so therefore there is no
restriction/requirements. With the MC ign. you will have to use one of the
MC-era flywheels, or install the pins in whatever flywheel you use.
HTH!
-Nate
'89 90tq
www.newtsplace.com/90tq
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