Driving/Fog lights (LONG answer)

[Larry C Leung]

I know of no one whom has mounted them. And they are rather large (as
they need to be to have workable optics). Anyone else?

LL - NY

On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 07:28:06 -0700 (PDT) ANTHONY ATTARD
<acattard at yahoo.com> writes:
>Thanks a bunch Larry.  BTW, do you know of anyone who
>has ever mount a set of PIAA driving/fog lamps (one
>unit)?? and if they are any good/Cost??.  Thanks again
>Larry.
>
>Tony 
>--- Larry C Leung <l.leung at juno.com> wrote:
>> If you are fighting fog (usually at night, during
>> the day you, and
>> everyone else are stuck on equal, groping ground),
>> the only thing that
>> works are real, quality fogs. BTW, factory Bosch
>> units SUCK. I'd go Hella
>> 8400 series (really interested in the tiny round
>> little jobs b/c they're
>> small, still trying to figure out a clean mount
>> inside the lower valence
>> grille) or PIAA 1400 series ($$$$). I've heard of
>> less than stellar
>> results from Catz fogs (too bad, physically they'd
>> fit very nicely in the
>> lower grille) but good things about their driving
>> lights, don't know
>> about others. So you know, fogs have a very wide,
>> relatively short
>> forward range (probably good for MAYBE 45 MPH on a
>> clear night, no
>> headlights) with a (if they're good like Hellas or
>> PIAA's BTDT) VERY
>> sharp low upper cutoff so there is no glare bounced
>> back to the driver.
>> Hence, ideally, the lower the mounting, the less the
>> glare, so below the
>> bumper is best. Also, when wiring, even if it's
>> illegal in some states,
>> the ideal set-up would be to have the fogs able to
>> run separate from the
>> headlights, though I'd recommend that they work with
>> parking lights on.
>> Also, if your fogs can be mounted within 10 inches
>> (25 cm) from the
>> furthest outside point of your car (each side,
>> obviously), some states do
>> allow for the fogs to be counted as marking lights,
>> which then makes them
>> legal to be used without HEADLIGHTS, (other markers
>> such as tail and side
>> must still be on). It also pays to separate the fogs
>> as much as possible
>> anyway as the coverage is better. Driving lights
>> are, to a degree, a form
>> of more centered longer range high beam, so much
>> less useful in fog, hard
>> to see weather conditions (BTDT, too, have a Euro
>> light equipped GTi with
>> occasional mounting of fogs). Euro lights are a
>> help, useful all year,
>> and more glare free then US DOT headlamps (hence
>> better in light fog than
>> DOT lights) but they are absolutely NO USE in heavy
>> fog, rain or snow.
>> There, only fog lamps will do (and don't expect to
>> do full highway speeds
>> in conditions where you need fogs and expect to see
>> well enough for that
>> speed. That's not what they're designed for, not
>> what they are capable
>> of. If you NEED fogs, you really need to slow down
>> to their abilities.
>> Okay, I lied, I could in heavy fog, snow or rain in
>> the dark could
>> approach 50, but that was under ideal conditions for
>> them. DOES take
>> careful aiming. 
>> 
>> LL - NY
>> 
>> On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 05:16:03 -0700 (PDT) ANTHONY
>> ATTARD
>> <acattard at yahoo.com> writes:
>> >Good audi fans.
>> >
>> >
>> >It's desperation time.  I need additional lighting
>> for
>> >my 1989 Audi 90 Q.  I am driven over 100 miles a
>> day
>> >through fog and all kinds of weather.  so I need to
>> >improve the lighting big time.  But I am not sure
>> >which way I should go.  (1) add more lights, if so,
>> >where does one mount them to??, or (2) improve the
>> >headlights that came with the car?  Any suggestions
>> >(phone #s., names, places, etc. etc. ) will be
>> greatly
>> >appreciated. Does anyone know of someone who has
>> gone
>> >down this road before??  Thanks a bunch in advance.
>> >
>> >Tony:  83 URQ; 86 4K CSQ; 89 Model 90Q 
>> >
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