Seal removal pliers

[Donald Lamond]

Well done Ben!  Next time something like this comes up, i'll follow your
example.

Thanks,

Donald
84  4Ks

"Swann, Benjamin R. (BSWANN)" wrote:

> I wasn't sure who was asking about the seal removal pliers, but I was in
> this dilemma Friday.
>
> I could have borrowed some from a local Audi mechanic freind, but not
> wanting to wait 'til Monday, thought I'd try something.
>
> I took an old set of regular pliers, a small set.  It barely fit down in the
> lifter hole, and went around the seal - no it definately would not grab the
> seal without deformation, but confirmed a basic fit check.  I then proceeded
> to:
>
> Grind the pliers to do the job.  I used both a bench grinder - ground down
> the nose of the jaws until it was flat and took some meat off the sides so
> it fit in the hole better.  I was able to actually go in a get one of the
> seals out, but thought it could be a little better.  Using a 1/2" grind
> stone on a rotary tool, ground down the inside of the jaws, so it fit well
> over the seal.  I left some of the teeth so it would grab the seal
> precisely.
>
> I wrapped the handles in duct tape to protect the bore while doing the job.
>
> Now I have my own set of seal puller pliers made from a pair of pliers I
> really never used.
>
> Beats waiting a week to have a set mail orderd from wherever.
>
> I'll post a picture, along with others on the head rebuild when I get a
> chance.  This was the second tool I had to fabricate - the first was the
> lifter compressor used to extract/install the spring retainers.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ben
> Head rebuild for project GTQ - 2.3l NG for 4kq,  complete.
>
> [I think I have pretty much covered the field as far as seal removal pliars
> are
> concerned.
>
> Stalhwille:  German.  My pick for top of the line.  I went to various shops
> and
> looked at the actual pliars.  These are very well built and should last a
> lifetime without any trouble.
> They make two models, 11063 which is short and the 11063/1 which is longer.
> The
> 11063/1 has a longer reach and fits both the older designs and also the
> newer
> engines.List price is 42.00 from Baum  with a 6.00 shipping fee.
>
> Hazet, another German manufacturer, is being sold by the Cornwell truck
> jobbers.
> Four calls to two different sales people, both of whom knew nothing of
> Hazet.  I
> was able to get an abbreviated catalog of Hazet products from Zelinda (toll
> free
> 888-892-8348)  Neither catalog showed the Hazet pliars or the cost of same.
> Hazet quality is unsurpassed. I was able to get the product number from the
> Hazet
> web site.   It is , Hazet 791-5. Better check this at their site.
>
> Facom.  This manufacturer is really being dumped on here in the States.  The
> US
> distributor is SK .  When I called, on my own dime I might add,  the person
> answering wasn't sure if they handeled that line or not.  I was put on hold
> for a
> couple of minutes and when she returned I was given another number to call.
> Again, no toll free number.
>
> When I finally reached someone who knew what I was talking about, I was told
> there would be a minimum of a 12 week wait.  I was able to get a pair of DM
> 10A,
> as recommended by Phil Payne from the Ultimate Garage for a very good price.
> Facom's special valve seal pliars are DM 7.  The number for the Ultimate
> Garage
> is 201-262-0412.
>
> Snap-On is carrying a seal remover tool made by Schley here in the US.  From
> the
> photograph in their catalog they have a twist on the lower part similar to
> Hazet.  No price list.  Must contact Snap-On for prices.  Part Number 92350.
>
> K-D used to make these tools but for some reason has stopped.  Chris Semple,
> of
> force5 auto up in New Hampshire, gave me the product number so I called the
> main
> offices at K-D and was told that the number was discontinued in 93.
>
> I called Lisle and was actually put in touch with a Mr. Lisle.
> who told me that they did not make that tool but thanked me for bringing it
> to
> his attention.  He told me it sounded like something that they would be
> interested in and would look into it further.
>
> There is now a new company on the West Coast called Sir.
> Noone seems to know anything about them.  They do have compressors and
> pliars.
> One of their outlets is Motoworks and they list the pliars as part number GL
> 10
> 110.  Their toll free number is 800-544-5357.  These folks were recommended
> to me
> by another lister who spoke highly of their service and prices.  Adding that
> they
> were ol' time VW guys.]
>
> > Donald,
> > Did you ever figure anything out on the seal removal pliers?  My head
> rebuild
> > is going slow.
> > Ira
> > In a message dated 6/30/01 9:34:34 AM, >I have still to contact Sears,
> Lisle
> > and K-D.  Most parts stores carry
> > >abbreviated versions of the aforementioned catalogs.  Chris Semple of
> > >Force 5, up in Concord, NH,
> > >is going to see if he can come up with part numbers from Lisle for the
> > >pliars and installation tool.
> > >
> ]