In a message dated 02-04-03 16:21:28 EST, you write: << Ken, That totally depends on the car. Some cars are very stable at those speeds. Taka >> I agree - having run the 944 Turbo S up to 140 (BTW, 4th gear in that car - it's still got one more :-) ), it's like going 60. Except for closure rates. Other than that, though.... :-) Later! Carter