still no spark (more pics on site)
Todd Phenneger
tquattroguy at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 4 00:38:14 EDT 2003
Ben,
Dont forget, Luke is using a Mac-07 ECU from the KH motor.
This is very similar to our Mac-10/11 units. It does have a
Knock Sensor, and is easy to get that extra power out of. Its
just not as advanced and doesn't control the WGFV like the MC.
IE...it doens't allow it to cycle the Valve to add MORE boost,
only to bleed off air if the motor overboosts.
However, if you look at the wiring, its very simple to swap
the harnesses and use the Mac-10 harness.
l8r
Todd
--- ben swann <benswann at comcast.net> wrote:
> Luke,
>
> I'm glad to hear you got it running. This internet problem
> has me
> several days behind in my email - unless I read the latest
> first, in
> which case I miss what is happening.
>
> I would look into the possibility of making it a MAC-11 system
> even if
> you need to run/change a few wires and add some sensors.
> There are a
> coupe of reasons. First, the knock sensor capability.
> Second, more
> collective knowledge and parts available for it. Third, an
> inexpensive
> chip is available that will give an additional 60 or so HP
> without
> engine modification.
>
> Keep sortin it out. I'm doing the same with my NG transplant
> into a
> 4000 quattro.
>
> Ben
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: luke <maytagasm at sympatico.ca>
> Date: Sunday, August 3, 2003 9:48 pm
> Subject: Re: still no spark (more pics on site)
>
> >
> > > With serious internet latency problem ongoing I reply..
> >
> > i guess... didnt see my post this morning
> > GOT IT GOING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > the flywheel pin was custom made on the NG flywheel
> > to match the MC pin... KH is exactly the same.
> >
> > turns out the coil ground was bad even though it had 0
> resistance
> > to the other grounds...
> > dan from competition motors came out and used my jumper
> cables
> > to test the ground and BOOM!
> >
> > i also found out my car is more hybrid MC/KH than i
> thought...
> > MC intake manifold, KH throttle stuff (so fuel rail will
> fit...)
> > MC exhuast manifold, MC ISV, KH ECU,
> > MC wiring harness... etc... MC cis...
> > and i different to what ive heard... my car ran fine
> > with a mac-11a but just pinged like crazy...
> > plug and play? ill soon find out :)
> > and one site says kh and mc isv's arent
> > swappable... but my car proves elsewise... wiring?
> > not sure...
> >
> > thanks a TON for the help ben... and
> > everyone else....
> >
> > ive put up some more new pics...
> > www.audi-quattro.org/~lukes90tq/
> > and moved dans 2 pics to a new site...
> > hopefully he'll email me more "finished"
> > pictures tonight...
> >
> > luke
> > 90tq
> > > The pin I noted in the pics IS NOT THE SAME as the MC
> > configuration,
> > > which consists of two pins to provide a reference
> "window".
> > >
> > > I have been speculating that the sensor means used by the
> > earlier MAC-
> > > 07 is different. This talk of TDC reference pin does not
> jive
> > with
> > > anything from the MAC-11. THe pin configuration used on
> an NG
> > flywheel
> > > does jive with the MAC-11 configuration even though it is
> not
> > employed
> > > in the NG CIS-E3 system - that flywheel would work fine
> with MAC-
> > 11 as
> > > 200 and/or 5000 tq flywheel works fine on NG/CIS-E3. I am
> into
> > this
> > > right now, 'cept pins have been deleted from the 200
> flywheel
> > installed
> > > on the NG engine - runs fine(except for unrelated issues).
> > >
> > > I have no real info on how the earlier system works, but
> do
> > recall some
> > > of these systems used a TDC sensor located on top of the
> trans.
> > and not
> > > off to the side. Perhaps ECU/system compensated for
> degrees of
> > offset -
> > > I just don't know, but..
> > >
> > > Luke - I suggest you should have a complete reference
> manual
> > available
> > > on how the FI/Ignition system is for your application. I
> hope
> > you
> > > don't need to pull the engine out, but best to determine
> before
> > > investing too much more time and mental energy, not to
> mention $$$$.
> > >
> >
> >
>
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