was :Cayenne vs Touareg now: racing

[John Larson]

Yes.  "Skipped major racing".  Seen any recent FACTORY racing effort in the
prototype classes in the bigs?  Audi dominates there, and Porsche is
conspicuously absent. You're talking history that wasn't mentioned or
intended in my post.   John
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From: "Cody" <Cody at mail.craincorporated.com>
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Subject: Re: was :Cayenne vs Touareg now: racing


> Skipped major racing? I'll start with the '70s. The Porsche 924GTR was a
huge success at Le Mans, and 914-6GTs won the GT class a few times at Le
Mans, then won tons of races. Bogger racing in that era of course was the
all conquering 917K and` 917LH in Europe, then the 917-10 and 917-30 in Can
Am. If your refering to the 80s when Audi went big in racing, Porsche was
there too in big form. The 956/962 series just about every race in the
entire 1980 decade, then the 959 of course in the Paris-Dakar rally, and
911s in various other rallies were only mildly successful thanks to the
Audis winning everything :-). Trans Am was all to the Audi team, but in IMSA
the 90TQs had to deal with a few remaining 935s, and of course 962s were
taking the overall wins still.
>
> -Cody Forbes
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "John Larson" <j.d.larson at verizon.net>
> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:54:00 -0800
>
> >The 924 engine is a derivation of the Audi 100LS (a Chevy like cast iron
> >four).  The pushrods were tossed and an overhead cam head was added.  The
> >pan even looks the same!  The same engine was used in other VW products,
> >medium trucks, I believe.  Super beetle front shocks, VW engine, a lot of
VW
> >switch gear, VW brakes, Audi tranny, VW type cooling system and smog
> >equipment; 924s were a VW effort from the getgo. The 928 was Porsche's
> >design, and begat the 944/951/968 engines, which were basically half a V8
> >with balance shafts necessary on big fours.  There is nothing common in
the
> >2 series, including the departments designing them.  914s are a good
> >example, having a VW engine and a VW designed chassis.  We might think of
> >them as "Porsches", but they're not.  More than 30 years after they first
> >appeared, I still have new customers tell me their 72-79 VW Bus has a
> >Porsche engine!  You have to wonder though, Porsche skipped major racing
> >while Audi made it big, and a lot of the faces on the engineering/racing
> >staffs are said to look familiar .....................  John
> >
> >
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