was :Cayenne vs Touareg now: racing

[Cody Forbes]

Well your post was talking about old cars, and I didn't catch that you
switched from old to new, sorry for that. One sentence was about a '72 bus,
then next about a few R8s, not a logical switch. I'll agree that in recent
times a Porsche factory effort has been absent, though they still at least
provide the tools in the form of the GT3 and GT2.

-Cody

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Larson" <j.d.larson at verizon.net>
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Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: was :Cayenne vs Touareg now: racing


> Yes.  "Skipped major racing".  Seen any recent FACTORY racing effort in
the
> prototype classes in the bigs?  Audi dominates there, and Porsche is
> conspicuously absent. You're talking history that wasn't mentioned or
> intended in my post.   John
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Cody" <Cody at mail.craincorporated.com>
> To: <printhead at usinternet.com>; <quattro at audifans.com>; "John Larson"
> <j.d.larson at verizon.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: was :Cayenne vs Touareg now: racing
>
>
> > Skipped major racing? I'll start with the '70s. The Porsche 924GTR was a
> huge success at Le Mans, and 914-6GTs won the GT class a few times at Le
> Mans, then won tons of races. Bogger racing in that era of course was the
> all conquering 917K and` 917LH in Europe, then the 917-10 and 917-30 in
Can
> Am. If your refering to the 80s when Audi went big in racing, Porsche was
> there too in big form. The 956/962 series just about every race in the
> entire 1980 decade, then the 959 of course in the Paris-Dakar rally, and
> 911s in various other rallies were only mildly successful thanks to the
> Audis winning everything :-). Trans Am was all to the Audi team, but in
IMSA
> the 90TQs had to deal with a few remaining 935s, and of course 962s were
> taking the overall wins still.
> >
> > -Cody Forbes
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: "John Larson" <j.d.larson at verizon.net>
> > Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:54:00 -0800
> >
> > >The 924 engine is a derivation of the Audi 100LS (a Chevy like cast
iron
> > >four).  The pushrods were tossed and an overhead cam head was added.
The
> > >pan even looks the same!  The same engine was used in other VW
products,
> > >medium trucks, I believe.  Super beetle front shocks, VW engine, a lot
of
> VW
> > >switch gear, VW brakes, Audi tranny, VW type cooling system and smog
> > >equipment; 924s were a VW effort from the getgo. The 928 was Porsche's
> > >design, and begat the 944/951/968 engines, which were basically half a
V8
> > >with balance shafts necessary on big fours.  There is nothing common in
> the
> > >2 series, including the departments designing them.  914s are a good
> > >example, having a VW engine and a VW designed chassis.  We might think
of
> > >them as "Porsches", but they're not.  More than 30 years after they
first
> > >appeared, I still have new customers tell me their 72-79 VW Bus has a
> > >Porsche engine!  You have to wonder though, Porsche skipped major
racing
> > >while Audi made it big, and a lot of the faces on the
engineering/racing
> > >staffs are said to look familiar .....................  John
> > >
> > >
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