4000q max tire size 17''

Todd Phenneger tquattroguy at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 19 09:39:13 EDT 2003


Antti,
  I agree with you on the camber values and its correlation to
wheel placement.  Obviously the arc of travel will be different.
 But the Shocks 90% of the lowered 4kqs out there run are no
different than stock travel wise.  They have the same
compression limits and the tire will travel just as far up into
the wheel well.
  If the tire rubbing is at the top of the WHeel Arch then
certainly the camber values will be crucial.  HOwever, I am
hearing that they are rubbing on the front of the rear Bumper.
That is closer to the Centerline of the wheel, where camber
changes are not going to be noticed, or if noticable will be a
fraction of the what they are at the top of the wheel.
  Am I missing something
l8r
  Todd


--- Antti Piirainen <antti.piirainen at iki.fi> wrote:
> Todd Phenneger wrote:
>
> > Antti,
> >   Lowered or not, Tires still will compress to the same
> point.
> > Even at stock height, go over a bump and yoru rub in the
> same
> > spots as a lowered car.
>
> Actually, the McPherson adaptation with a single triangular
> arm and a
> tie rod - as is the case in the rear of the 4kq/Cq - causes
> the Camber
> to vary at different points of suspension travel. Even if the
> wheel
> alignment is performed under a simulated load state with the
> front
> raised and the rear under compression, the stock suspension
> doesn't
> reach the depths shorter springs and shock absorbers will at
> the point,
> especially if they have any progression in them.
>
> The difference in the "zero" position of the rear suspension
> arms at the
> alignment procedure also provides an offset to the Camber
> values at the
> same suspension arm angles in stock vs. short springs. The
> difference
> can be very small but also very crucial. It's the same as when
> you
> notice your Cambers are -2 degrees off at the alignment
> position after
> installing lowering springs.
>
> --
> Antti Piirainen
> 87 Cq
>
>


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