1.8T sludge poll

David duandcc_forums at cox.net
Wed Dec 29 12:22:45 EST 2004


I'm calling BS on some of what he said. It's the part about the K03 not needing a cooling off time and not having a coking problem. Early Passats and A4s with the 1.8T were RECALLED due to the problem. I ended up with a new turbo from the problem. Coking was a very significant problem with early B5 1.8Ts...

Dave
87 CGT 2.3
SE VA

> 
> From: JordanVw at aol.com
> Date: 2004/12/29 Wed AM 11:48:49 EST
> To: d_dibiase at yahoo.com,  delta9 at gmail.com,  sdewitt at stx.rr.com
> CC: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: 1.8T sludge poll
> 
> here is what a "service advisor" on the passat list has to say about the 
> sludge issue..apparently its not a problem in the Golfs/jettas equipped with the 
> 1.8T, just the B5 Audi A4's and Passats..
> 
> -----------------fwd----------------
> Subj:   [vwpassat] Re: "Oil Sludge" in 1.8T's   
> Date:   12/28/04 8:51:22 PM Eastern Standard Time   
> From:   philteves at worldnet.att.net  
> Reply-to:   vwpassat at yahoogroups.com    
> To: vwpassat at yahoogroups.com    
> Sent from the Internet (Details)    
>     
> Hello again Folks,
> 
> I've posted this before but I'll post it again for those of you who 
> missed the original post.
> 
> First, the "Oil Sludge" problem is only seen in the 1.8T's as installed 
> in the B5 chassis (Audi A4 and Passat). There is no oil sludge problem 
> with the 2.8 Liter V6 in the A4 or Passat or the 1.8T installed in the 
> A4 chassis (Jetta, Golf, New Beetle, Audi A3 and TT). The oil sludges 
> because of heat and low capacity in this motor. The newer B5's have 
> more oil in them.
> 
> As I've noted before the major difference is the oil pan and oil 
> capacity. In the B5 engine the oil pan is real close to the oil pickup, 
> so any sludge that forms in the pan has the possibility of obstructing 
> the oil pump screen. The new oil filter (which is significantly larger) 
> adds to the total oil capacity of this engine. The A4 chassis engines 
> have a much deeper oil pan and hold at least a quart more of oil.
> 
> Regarding the turbo of this engine. First, any comparison to early 
> turbos (Saab, Volvo and others) is not a valid one. This turbo is oil 
> cooled, water cooled and air to air intercooled. There is no need to 
> let the turbo cool off when you shut the engine off. The water 
> continues to circulate (by convection) and there is a small oil 
> reservoir which prevents the turbo bearings from oil starvation. The 
> previous turbos discussed only had oil cooling, and once the engine was 
> turned off would "coke" the bearings, and eventually destroy them. 
> These earlier engines are where all the "horror stories" come from. I 
> have not seen any turbo failures related to "cokeing". I have seen 
> turbo failures due to oil starvation form outside sources.
> 
> --
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phil Teves
> Internet Sales Manager
> Mattie Imports, Inc.
> 80 William S. Canning Blvd.
> Fall River, MA 02721
> Websites: http://mattievw.com and http://mattieaudi.com
> Phone: 1.508.678.5555 extension 217
> Fax: 1.508.675.5320
> E-Mail: philteves at worldnet.att.net
> 
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