1.8T sludge poll
David
duandcc_forums at cox.net
Wed Dec 29 12:22:45 EST 2004
I'm calling BS on some of what he said. It's the part about the K03 not needing a cooling off time and not having a coking problem. Early Passats and A4s with the 1.8T were RECALLED due to the problem. I ended up with a new turbo from the problem. Coking was a very significant problem with early B5 1.8Ts...
Dave
87 CGT 2.3
SE VA
>
> From: JordanVw at aol.com
> Date: 2004/12/29 Wed AM 11:48:49 EST
> To: d_dibiase at yahoo.com, delta9 at gmail.com, sdewitt at stx.rr.com
> CC: quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: 1.8T sludge poll
>
> here is what a "service advisor" on the passat list has to say about the
> sludge issue..apparently its not a problem in the Golfs/jettas equipped with the
> 1.8T, just the B5 Audi A4's and Passats..
>
> -----------------fwd----------------
> Subj: [vwpassat] Re: "Oil Sludge" in 1.8T's
> Date: 12/28/04 8:51:22 PM Eastern Standard Time
> From: philteves at worldnet.att.net
> Reply-to: vwpassat at yahoogroups.com
> To: vwpassat at yahoogroups.com
> Sent from the Internet (Details)
>
> Hello again Folks,
>
> I've posted this before but I'll post it again for those of you who
> missed the original post.
>
> First, the "Oil Sludge" problem is only seen in the 1.8T's as installed
> in the B5 chassis (Audi A4 and Passat). There is no oil sludge problem
> with the 2.8 Liter V6 in the A4 or Passat or the 1.8T installed in the
> A4 chassis (Jetta, Golf, New Beetle, Audi A3 and TT). The oil sludges
> because of heat and low capacity in this motor. The newer B5's have
> more oil in them.
>
> As I've noted before the major difference is the oil pan and oil
> capacity. In the B5 engine the oil pan is real close to the oil pickup,
> so any sludge that forms in the pan has the possibility of obstructing
> the oil pump screen. The new oil filter (which is significantly larger)
> adds to the total oil capacity of this engine. The A4 chassis engines
> have a much deeper oil pan and hold at least a quart more of oil.
>
> Regarding the turbo of this engine. First, any comparison to early
> turbos (Saab, Volvo and others) is not a valid one. This turbo is oil
> cooled, water cooled and air to air intercooled. There is no need to
> let the turbo cool off when you shut the engine off. The water
> continues to circulate (by convection) and there is a small oil
> reservoir which prevents the turbo bearings from oil starvation. The
> previous turbos discussed only had oil cooling, and once the engine was
> turned off would "coke" the bearings, and eventually destroy them.
> These earlier engines are where all the "horror stories" come from. I
> have not seen any turbo failures related to "cokeing". I have seen
> turbo failures due to oil starvation form outside sources.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Phil Teves
> Internet Sales Manager
> Mattie Imports, Inc.
> 80 William S. Canning Blvd.
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> Websites: http://mattievw.com and http://mattieaudi.com
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