20v Chump Car?!

Mon Nov 19 19:03:17 PST 2012

I agree with David G & Tony H....I have been a number both Chump & Lemons
races.  Here in the Midwest, competition is stiffer, we end up going up
against a lot of BMW E30's and E36's.  

IHMO an audi is not a good choice; the weight balance isn't very good, more
parts to fail, and there is too much mass and drive train loss in a Quattro.
Not trying to talk you out of it, just saying.  As previously mentioned,
some key ingredients to being successful is a car that at least one person
is intimately familiar with, lots of spares, fix the weak points before the
race, do anal bastage maintenance, before the race.  A car that is easy to
work on, super reliable, and good drivers who are consistent, good in
traffic and don't drive so aggressively they break the car.

Both cars I ran both are ABA powered, for ChumpCar in the Midwest they only
a Top 10 car, but will never podium.  The ABA is a wonderful motor, it just
needs "help" to go fast.

If you want a more real/serious race car experience go Chump, if you are
more interested in having a laugh and shenanigans go w/ Lemons.   Costs add
up quickly; you will be looking at a minimum of $500 just for cage metal,
lots of stuff adds up, race car gas, tow vehicle gas, trailer maintence/use,
safety gear, lodging, ect, ect, ect.  

David, we need to talk again about ABA stuff (see my blog for two odd
failures we had this year.

I have photos of my various chump car (and other stuff) on my blog and on
face book (search JAB Motorsport)

Feel free to ask more questions.  Apparently there is a lot of experience on
this email list, that can save you heart ache and $.

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-----Original Message-----
From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com] On
Behalf Of David Glubrecht
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:22 AM
To: qforsail at yahoo.com; quattro at audifans.com
Subject: RE: 20v Chump Car?!

  David Glubrecht

I run a lot of Chump Car races and they are VERY different from Lemons.  
They want you to show that you can buy a 10 running examples of your car for
less than $500.  It is a BS system, but for the most part it works.
Still going to be your problem.  With the rarity of these and most people
willing to pay over $500 for a intact engine, showing the price point will
be nearly impossible without fraud.

I will buy it $501, I am close enough.

Many engines are blown in racing and what are you going to do with a car you
spent a lot of money prepping and caging it when you blow it?
 This is our team http://www.facebook.com/SquirrelsOfFury?ref=ts&fref=ts
Chump Car is GREAT!!!!   It is usually very close racing and lots of action,
DO IT!    But first race is going to be expensive, do you have committed
teammates?  Ones that have or will put up $1000. to get going?  As others
have said, first race will likely run ~$5,000.00.  Additional races can be a
bit cheaper, but not much.    
It can be done for less, as some have brought a chevette and drove it to the
track.  They blew an engine, and swapped it just in time to drive it home on
their first race.

Best to choose something that you can get replacement engines/transmissions,
etc cheap.
The last race in Spokane VW (ABA) 2.0l engines were in all 3 podium cars.  

Another option is to buy a seat on a team, usually a good deal, but do
research.

I am looking for a FWD ~84 coupe shell to put all the stuff from our S1
tribute car in.  
It was wrecked beyond repair at the last race.   

> Subject: 20v Chump Car?!
> From: qforsail at yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:56:20 -0700
> To: quattro at audifans.com
> 
> So this may be considered sacrilege.  I have a bone stock '91 200q that
has been residing in the garage for a couple years with maddening electrical
issues not at all uncommon with the type. After spending way too many hours
and far too much money chasing these gremlins, I've surrendered.  The car
has 250kmi, and runs, rides, and shifts nicely.
> 
> I met my best friends cousin a little while back, and he's all agog about
this chump car racing. Check out www.Chumpcar.com  It's an endurance series
designed for newbies on a budget.  The car cannot have a market value over
$500, and can have no performance modifications.  The nearest race is a 24
hour even in Spokane next summer.
> 
> Over a few beers, a couple gear head buddies and have come to the
conclusion that entering the 24 hour would be a fitting end to the '91.
Other than the clutch and a timing belt that's would require replacing, I
think it would have a good chance of finishing.  If we had an extra set of
strut assemblies, we could replace a failed wheel bearing or blown strut
cartridge fairly quickly. Stripped of all the electric motors, glass, and
luxury bits, it would be significantly lightened.  Last summers race was won
by a Golf. My friends cousin was in the running with a 280ZX, and they
routinely hit 130 mph on the straight.
> 
> We're still discussing the budget and feasibility.  I have a welder with a
tubing bender interested for the roll cage.  The rules aren't too far out of
the realm of possibility.  I have no further interest in getting this 20v
beast back on the road, and doubt anyone is nuts enough to buy it so I'm
thinking why the hell not?
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
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