20v Chump Car?!

Cody Forbes cody at 5000tq.com
Mon Nov 19 20:40:13 PST 2012 

My buddies A8 4.2 V8 powered 2700lb 4000q LeMons car would beg to differ ;-). Results have been hampered by overheating brakes and some bad luck, but the car is FAST.

-Cody Forbes (mobile)

On Nov 19, 2012, at 10:03 PM, "Aaron Jongbloedt" <jungle at hickorytech.net> wrote:

> I agree with David G & Tony H....I have been a number both Chump & Lemons
> races.  Here in the Midwest, competition is stiffer, we end up going up
> against a lot of BMW E30's and E36's.  
> 
> IHMO an audi is not a good choice; the weight balance isn't very good, more
> parts to fail, and there is too much mass and drive train loss in a Quattro.
> Not trying to talk you out of it, just saying.  As previously mentioned,
> some key ingredients to being successful is a car that at least one person
> is intimately familiar with, lots of spares, fix the weak points before the
> race, do anal bastage maintenance, before the race.  A car that is easy to
> work on, super reliable, and good drivers who are consistent, good in
> traffic and don't drive so aggressively they break the car.
> 
> Both cars I ran both are ABA powered, for ChumpCar in the Midwest they only
> a Top 10 car, but will never podium.  The ABA is a wonderful motor, it just
> needs "help" to go fast.
> 
> If you want a more real/serious race car experience go Chump, if you are
> more interested in having a laugh and shenanigans go w/ Lemons.   Costs add
> up quickly; you will be looking at a minimum of $500 just for cage metal,
> lots of stuff adds up, race car gas, tow vehicle gas, trailer maintence/use,
> safety gear, lodging, ect, ect, ect.  
> 
> David, we need to talk again about ABA stuff (see my blog for two odd
> failures we had this year.
> 
> I have photos of my various chump car (and other stuff) on my blog and on
> face book (search JAB Motorsport)
> 
> Feel free to ask more questions.  Apparently there is a lot of experience on
> this email list, that can save you heart ache and $.
> 
> ------------------------------
> Aaron Jongbloedt  "YoungBlood"
> http://junglemotorsports.blogspot.com       
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: quattro-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-bounces at audifans.com] On
> Behalf Of David Glubrecht
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:22 AM
> To: qforsail at yahoo.com; quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: RE: 20v Chump Car?!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  David Glubrecht
> 
> 
> I run a lot of Chump Car races and they are VERY different from Lemons.  
> They want you to show that you can buy a 10 running examples of your car for
> less than $500.  It is a BS system, but for the most part it works.
> Still going to be your problem.  With the rarity of these and most people
> willing to pay over $500 for a intact engine, showing the price point will
> be nearly impossible without fraud.
> 
> I will buy it $501, I am close enough.
> 
> Many engines are blown in racing and what are you going to do with a car you
> spent a lot of money prepping and caging it when you blow it?
> This is our team http://www.facebook.com/SquirrelsOfFury?ref=ts&fref=ts
> Chump Car is GREAT!!!!   It is usually very close racing and lots of action,
> DO IT!    But first race is going to be expensive, do you have committed
> teammates?  Ones that have or will put up $1000. to get going?  As others
> have said, first race will likely run ~$5,000.00.  Additional races can be a
> bit cheaper, but not much.    
> It can be done for less, as some have brought a chevette and drove it to the
> track.  They blew an engine, and swapped it just in time to drive it home on
> their first race.
> 
> Best to choose something that you can get replacement engines/transmissions,
> etc cheap.
> The last race in Spokane VW (ABA) 2.0l engines were in all 3 podium cars.  
> 
> Another option is to buy a seat on a team, usually a good deal, but do
> research.
> 
> I am looking for a FWD ~84 coupe shell to put all the stuff from our S1
> tribute car in.  
> It was wrecked beyond repair at the last race.   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Subject: 20v Chump Car?!
>> From: qforsail at yahoo.com
>> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 13:56:20 -0700
>> To: quattro at audifans.com
>> 
>> So this may be considered sacrilege.  I have a bone stock '91 200q that
> has been residing in the garage for a couple years with maddening electrical
> issues not at all uncommon with the type. After spending way too many hours
> and far too much money chasing these gremlins, I've surrendered.  The car
> has 250kmi, and runs, rides, and shifts nicely.
>> 
>> I met my best friends cousin a little while back, and he's all agog about
> this chump car racing. Check out www.Chumpcar.com  It's an endurance series
> designed for newbies on a budget.  The car cannot have a market value over
> $500, and can have no performance modifications.  The nearest race is a 24
> hour even in Spokane next summer.
>> 
>> Over a few beers, a couple gear head buddies and have come to the
> conclusion that entering the 24 hour would be a fitting end to the '91.
> Other than the clutch and a timing belt that's would require replacing, I
> think it would have a good chance of finishing.  If we had an extra set of
> strut assemblies, we could replace a failed wheel bearing or blown strut
> cartridge fairly quickly. Stripped of all the electric motors, glass, and
> luxury bits, it would be significantly lightened.  Last summers race was won
> by a Golf. My friends cousin was in the running with a 280ZX, and they
> routinely hit 130 mph on the straight.
>> 
>> We're still discussing the budget and feasibility.  I have a welder with a
> tubing bender interested for the roll cage.  The rules aren't too far out of
> the realm of possibility.  I have no further interest in getting this 20v
> beast back on the road, and doubt anyone is nuts enough to buy it so I'm
> thinking why the hell not?
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> 
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