[s-cars] Toluene, Race Gas, Water Injection, etc

Bruce Mendel c113017 at attglobal.net
Mon Nov 4 18:45:53 EST 2002


Idea is to mist the air with fine atomizing nozzle, to cool the air already
flowing to the brakes further.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frederic L'Huillier" <flhuillier at siebel.com>
To: "'Bruce Mendel'" <brucem105 at comcast.net>; <S4audinut at aol.com>;
<charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org>; <HoosierMP at aol.com>
Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 3:08 AM
Subject: RE: [s-cars] Toluene, Race Gas, Water Injection, etc


> I thought mist the brake rotors will actually brake them because of the
> difference of temperature between hot rotor and cold water. I don't recall
> any race car using a such system.
> Can anyone confirm ?
>
> Regards,
> Frederic
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Mendel [mailto:brucem105 at comcast.net]
> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 9:13 PM
> To: S4audinut at aol.com; charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org; HoosierMP at aol.com
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Toluene, Race Gas, Water Injection, etc
>
>
> I looked at the intelligent auto spray, and the spray triggers were well
> designed, and all in all it was a nice system.
>
> However, the intake temp reductions were exponentially greater with water
> injection aft of the intercooler as compared to spraying on the
intercooler.
> It was more money, but seemed to me at least to be a better performance
> tradeoff.
>
> The toluene spray idea is pretty much what you get with a good Aquamist
> atomizing nozzle and using 50% methanol in the water injection.
>
> I'm also considering hooking up two extra nozzles to mist the brake rotors
> for summer track events (not using methanol of course!).
>
> Bruce
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <S4audinut at aol.com>
> To: <charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org>; <HoosierMP at aol.com>
> Cc: <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 2:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Toluene, Race Gas, Water Injection, etc
>
>
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > In a message dated 11/03/2002 2:16:53 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org writes:
> >
> > > I suggest you look at the Labtronics Intelligent Intercooler Water
> Spray:
> > >   http://www.elektro.com/~audi/labtronics/
> > >
> > > It's a very well done unit that monitors ambient temperature and
> > > intercooler temperature on the BACK of the intercooler, and knows
> > > when you've got a load on the engine by watching the duty cycle
> > > of an injector.  Both load and temperature sensitivity are adjustable
> > > so it can figure when to close a relay controlling a water spray pump.
> > > This really helps conserve whatever fluid you are using.
> > >
> > > It seems to me it was about $100 US by the time it was shipped here.
> > >
> > >   - Charlie
> > >
> > >
> > >  Charlie Smith   charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org  614
> >
> > We could be onto a real perf. gainer here, Toluene injection, think
about
> it!
> > Rod
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