[s-cars] Re: S4 Chip

[Dave Forgie]

Richard:  I agree about the fact that a chip will expose all the other "hidden"
problems, e.g. boost leaks, bad plugs, etc.  What I very much disagree with is
you need a tuner to sort these things out.  The car should not have these
problems before you add the chip, i.e. boost leaks should have been sorted,
plugs changed, etc. before the chip. Sounds like you thought you needed a chip
because you had less power than you wanted.  In fact, a knowledgible mechanic
(or somebody with  a boost leak "kit") should have gone through the car before
you proceeded and fixed what needed to be fixed. .  Adding a chip to a car that
isn't running 100% stock is like adding more make-up to Roseanne Barr - no
amount is going to make her Claudia Schiffer.

Dave F.

Richard Tanimura wrote:

> Fair question but pretty simplistic.
>
> A chip resides in an environment. That environment may or may not be working
> well. A performance chip invariable exposes the weaknesses in the rest of
> the system because you are demanding more of all the parts. Since they first
> show up when you put the chip in, your first response is to turn to the chip
> tuner. More often than not, the problems prove to be mechanical. But you
> need the tuner to help you discover if they are or aren't. Tuning is about
> iteration. It is not a question of a "project" but rather a process. That is
> where support comes in.
>
> E.g. I got my chip from Mihnea plus a 2.5 bar PT. I put it in and thought it
> was a big improvement. But Mihnea asked me how much boost I was getting. I
> told him 1.1-1.3 bar. He told me I had a leak in my boost system. He talked
> me through finding it. He then had me go out and do test runs. He suggested
> that I tighten down the WG spring and things got even better.
>
> So far, none of the problems were in the chip. It was just the chip tuner
> that help me sort them.
>
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Forgie [mailto:forgied at direct.ca]
> Sent: den 16 juli 2003 07:54
> To: richard at tanimuras.com; s-cars
> Subject: S4 Chip
>
> Mike and Rich: If a chip is "good" (or great) why does it need support?
> Isn't it "sorted" before you spend your $$$ on it?  Unless you are doing
> something out of the ordinary (say K26/Garrett hybrid), then I might
> understand the need for 'support', otherwise, I  wouldn't want to buy or
> recommend anybody's "science project".
>
> Dave F.
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