[s-cars] up a creek without a paddle: timing belt on S6

Lino M. Valadas l.valadas at rogers.com
Sun Oct 5 14:37:24 EDT 2003


Ouch!

Never tried it.  Don't want to be the first one either.  I have two TB's
waiting for me the AAN and the AAH,  so I'm following threads on TB
replacements.

If you try this.  I suggest you book an appointment with your local dentist
for some possible missing teeth  ;-)

Lino


----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Russell" <skippertgore at hotmail.com>
To: <s-car-list at audifans.com>; <rokas at wam.umd.edu>; <munrof at sympatico.ca>
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 8:20 AM
Subject: RE: [s-cars] up a creek without a paddle: timing belt on S6


> Well, there is one more trick... But this is certainly a old school
mechanic
> trick (how I learned it) and I have NEVER tried this with an audi, only
vw's
> and the crank bolt is not quite as tight...
>
> This will ONLY work if the motor spins the correct way.... And can be
quite
> DANGEROUS if you don't know what the implications may be...
>
> You can use the engine to break the bolt free, by hitting the starter very
> quickly with the plugs disconnected.  I'm not qoing to go into detail till
I
> hear from somebody else who will get the gist of what I'm talking about
and
> can say yay or nay first...  Besides, this bolt may be in too tight for
this
> trick to work...
>
> ...and it's Sunday now, you may have figured out something by this
point...
>
> (Flame suit on...)
>
> -Matt, co
> 92 s4
>
>
>
>
> On 10/4/03 6:50 PM, "s-car-list-request at audifans.com"
> <s-car-list-request at audifans.com> wrote:
>
> > Message: 1
> > From: "Fred Munro" <munrof at sympatico.ca>
> > To: "Rokas Reipa" <rokas at wam.umd.edu>, <s-car-list at audifans.com>
> > Subject: RE: [s-cars] up a creek without a paddle: timing belt on S6
> > Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:59:33 -0400
> >
> > Hi Rokas;
> >
> > There are a few other ways to lock the crank, but none as satisfactory
or
> > safe as the crank locking tool.
> >
> > I used a 12 mm Allen wrench to lock the first 10V engine I did. With the
> > socket on the bolt, the short leg of the Allen key fit in between the
socket
> > and the pulley and locked on the step in the pulley that engages the
crank
> > lock tool. I set the long leg of the Allen key against a convenient and
> > solid part of the engine and managed to break the bolt loose. The entire
> > set-up was so insecure I had to place guards to prevent catching the
Allen
> > key with my face if it should slip. I ordered the crank lock tool right
> > after that job.
> >
> > An old standby is to bring No.1 piston to the bottom of the compression
> > stroke, stuff a bunch of soft cotton rope down the cylinder, and
compress
> > the rope, thereby locking the crank in position. The problem with this
"old
> > standby" is that it works great on North American engines with 60 ft-lb
on
> > the crank bolt but puts a lot of strain on the crank, rod, piston, and
head
> > with 330 ft-lb plus thread locker on the Audi bolt. Another problem is
that
> > on some engines the thread locker is under the bolt head, locking the
bolt
> > to the pulley. The crank lock tool locks the pulley. If you lock the
crank
> > and the pulley turns with the bolt, you may shear the key cast into the
> > pulley, requiring the purchase of a new pulley.
> >
> > Personally, I wouldn't touch this job on the 20V engine without the
crank
> > lock.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> >
> > Fred Munro
> > '94 S4
>
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