[s-cars] 93 urS4: no turn over, no start, no jump (FINAL CHAPTER)

[Doug Landaeta]

Battery - going with anything special?
Back in September, it is written... (on whatever it is they write it on up
there)

Snip............
"Mark,

I agree with Stephen.  Why not upgrade one more step?
Upgrade to the OdysseyR battery instead of the Optima.
I used the PC1200 version on my Yellow conversion, and have never seen such
a small powerhouse of a battery.
Check this out:

2600 amps short circuit
1200 amps for  5 seconds
1090 amps for 10 seconds
 900 amps for 20 seconds
 860 amps for 30 seconds at 80 degrees HCA (   Hot Cranking Amps)
 725 amps for 30 seconds at 32 degrees MCA (Marine Cranking Amps)  550 amps
for 30 seconds at  0 degrees CCA (  Cold Cranking Amps)  400 amps for 60
seconds (just a fact)
  25 amps for 78 minutes (Reserve Capacity)
   4 amps for 10 hours   (40 amp hour rating)

And the fast recovery. . . with the alternator charging, there is no
limitation on the inrush current, so the charge and recovery is very fast in
contrast to the Optima with its 10 amp limit.

***After composing and rereading this I sound like a battery salesman sorry,
but I think this is educational for all.

The Odyssey is NOT a Gel-Cell like the Optima, but is a "starved" or
absorbed electrolyte type battery, meaning that there is no free acid inside
the battery; all of the acid is kept absorbed in the glass mat separators.
There is no free electrolyte liquid or gel which could escape and cause
corrosion, even in the event of damage to the battery case.  If the ODYSSEY
battery were to split open, there would be no acid spillage!

Owing to the Drycell design, the US Department of Transportation (USDOT) has
classified the ODYSSEYR battery as a dry battery, so it may be shipped
worry-free by UPS/Federal Express or by air.

http://www.odysseybatteries.com/
http://www.odysseybatteries.com/auto.htm
http://www.odysseybatteries.com/faq.htm#a

http://www.odysseyfactory.com/specs.htm


The PC1200 series is smaller that a stock Audi battery.  You can use your
own custom hold down or buy one from West Coast Batteries.

This battery is actually the civilian version of the PC1200-0766-2003
42Ah/C10 Light Duty Truck battery that Hawker Energy Products supplies to
the US Military with a 12 year life.  They are practically indestructible.
Military design prevents shorted cells and vibration damage. They provide
deep-cycle reserve and high starting power.


Hawker Energy Products Inc.
617 North Ridgeview Drive
Warrensburg, Missouri 64093-9301
USA

Whew,

Ned Ritchie

-----Original Message-----
From: s-car-list-admin at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-admin at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Redford
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:01 AM
To: Mark Pollan
Cc: UrqEmailList; S-Car-List at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Optima Battery - What Model?

-------I don't have Optima info , but I bought an "Odyssey Drycell
Battery " .  Here is the website ;   www.odysseybatteries.com   ...
Maybe someone else has input on them also ....   Stephen Redford
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Pollan" <mark.pollan at mci.com>
To: "S-Cars (E-mail)" <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 7:38 PM
Subject: [s-cars] Optima Battery - What Model?


> My battery gave up the ghost.  Under the seat is a Diehard.  Would
like
> something different that does not fail without fail at the
predetermined
> Mean Time to Failure.  I do recall reading that Optima makes a good
battery
> but cannot recall the model to use.  If anybody would be so kind to
provide
> info/commentary it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Pollan

Doug L
94 S4
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-
> bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Billing, Eric
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 5:18 PM
> To: s-car-list at audifans.com; quattro at audifans.com
> Subject: [s-cars] 93 urS4: no turn over, no start, no jump (FINAL CHAPTER)
> 
> During this afternoon's heat wave (3 above!) I purchased a tow strap at
> Napa and with my wife's 93 100csqw tow-started it. It is so cold that
> the clutch does not release sufficiently fast to roll start. Of course
> it didn't help that I was on a nearly flat slope.
> 
> 
> 
> Man, was the car grumpy. Normally it's in the garage every night----last
> night it had to stay outside in 15 below temps. Before the tow-start, I
> again tested accessories to see if they dimmed or cut out while key was
> to "start". Radio, overhead lights did not cut out or diminish while key
> was in "start" position. As it was daylight I can't confirm what
> headlights did.
> 
> 
> 
> After allowing a little warm up, I drove it to Anderson Motorsports. I
> had discussed the situation with them prior to leaving home. They were
> thinking "switch or starter" and in their opinion, what I was describing
> would not be resolved by a new battery. Two hours later I get the call
> that it was the switch---the starter's OK.
> 
> 
> 
> I've also decided to replace the battery, which it turns out is still
> the original from the Aug 1992 in service date... can you believe that?
> Better think about updating the battery in my wife's car. Since we've
> owned that car since 1996---I'm fairly certain it's original also.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks to all of you for your suggestions. I appreciate the prompt
> replies (received some within 2 minutes of hitting send!).
> 
> 
> 
> Take care & stay warm!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> 
> Eric Billing
> 
> Eagan, MN
> 
> 
> 
> eric.billing at ugsplm.com