[s-cars] RE: Stebro

[Theodore Chen]

--- matt ludwig <matt.ludwig2 at verizon.net> wrote:
> i should clarify here real quick-
> 
> i did not mean to question Taka's statement on the power potentials at 
> all. fully agree the 4.6L is more than capable of some SERIOUS power 
> w/o any internals being beefed up- this is also actually one of my 
> points to why i question the latter half of the statement.

my comment was just responding to taka's.  actually, 400 rwhp for a
supercharged DOHC 4.6 is on the conservative side.  i know people who
have made well over 500 rwhp, street legal in CA even.

> w/ that, yes 
> i was referring to the "later" versions of the 'stang. i agree, they 
> are a simple platform and there is something to be said for that 
> simplistic, raw platform and trying to obtain a real monster from that. 
> i can't though even begin to really consider that this platform can out 
> "handle", in any condition, the very nature of the beast we all have 
> learned to love that is audi and the quattro system.

you have to define "handle".  dry performance on smooth roads, performance
on icy/snowy roads, or off-roading ability?

taka already has an audi.  he's looking for something different.

let's face it - as much as we love our UrS cars, they don't handle all
that well.  mine is a '92 with the stiffest stock suspension and a 
rear antiroll bar, and it's a 4000 lb. understeering pig.  one of its
biggest problems is the triangulated front antiroll bar, which guarantees
steering weirdness and understeer no matter what you do.  i bought the car
as a fast, comfortable street car, and it excels in that role.  but it is
not a particularly good-handling car when pressed hard.

> serious, serious money has to be anted up ( as alex and teddy both 
> point out) to be abel to compensate for a far less than acceptable 
> chassis set up and be able to compete w/ a "stock" Urs.

no, i said "cheap".  we are talking about things like shocks, springs,
camber plates.  the '99+ mustangs are better than the earlier years in
that regard.

> my question still stands though, what about your '87 mustang in 
> stock form? will it still drive circles around your stock S4, teddy?

i don't know.  it's been so long since it was stock that i can't remember
what it was like.  however, any '99+ mustang will.  they have better
suspension geometry, wider track, more power, and the ability to put
really big tires on them.

to pick up ford's tagline: have you driven a mustang... lately?

-teddy



	
		
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