[s-cars] Re: KKK Hybrid Turbo

[JR]

Anyone have any updates about the Innovative RS2++?  Are they going to 
do it and if so how much?

Thanks,

JR



Lewis, Gary M wrote:

>The old Innovative RS2++ K26 based turbo is probably dead as a product
>line.  However:
>
>Innovative has all the parts (from yours truly, a K24 and a K26) and is
>considering an RS2++ using a K24 compressor cover, and a next larger
>wheel vs. what was used in the original RS2++ K26 compressor cover.
>Problem with the K26 compressor cover is the cover breaks over 1/2 the
>time when machining, creating real problems for Innovative.  The K24
>compressor cover is much more machine able, can actually take a bigger
>wheel, and the opening won't need to be cut off and re-welded on.  The
>K24 a/r isn't as large as the K26, but looking at Dawson's RS2 dyno vs.
>Cody's Innovative RS2++ (with K26 a/r), bigger a/r doesn't seem to be
>critical on the KKK 24/26 product line and our beloved 2.2 liter.  
>
>I expect the NEW RS2++ will be in the same price range ($950), but
>probably cheaper.  Assuming Innovative does this (they CAN do it, they
>aren't sure if they WANT to), expect RS2 type turbo's to be flowing at
>less than RS2 prices in October.  I will let everyone know if they
>choose to, and will post results from my car as they happen.  My guess
>is to keep the prices down they (me?) will arrange turbo's in lots
>(group buys) of probably ~10.
>
>My goal is to provide all the RS2 wannabe's with a fast (turnaround
>wise), inexpensive, total bolt-on, and possibly better solution to the
>factory RS2 turbo.  I have no financial affiliation with Innovative.
>This is a hobby.
>
>Gary Lewis
>
>1995.5 S6 Avant, Green/Ecru, RS2 MAF, RS2 Exhaust Manifold, RS2
>Injectors, Custom Turbo (K26 Turbine, Factory K26 Cold side (Audi Works
>'999' P/N, RS2 Comp) with 50mm intake and custom Innovative Turbo
>compressor wheel), TurboXS Type 25 Bypass Valve, Bilsteins, Eibachs, Big
>Reds, Spec II Clutch.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: chris chambers [mailto:fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com] 
>Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:40 AM
>To: JR; Scar
>Subject: Re: [s-cars] Re: KKK Hybrid Turbo
>
>
>JR,
>
>I posted that update, they hadn't determined what the cost might be
>raised to but at that time were thinking $1050 - 1100.
>
>HTH
>
>Chris
>
>
>--- JR <urs4 at magnaspeed.net> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I thought I remembered an email back a couple of months that said
>>Innovative has suspended making your "Innovative KKK RS2++" and was 
>>re-evaluating the cost. I wonder what is costing these days. Anyone
>>know?
>>
>>JR
>>
>>
>>Lewis, Gary M wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Some additional comments from me:
>>>
>>>Cody Payne's Innovative RS2++ turbo vs. Dave Dawson's RS2 stock
>>>      
>>>
>>turbo
>>    
>>
>>>Dyno.
>>>
>>>I just looked at the two dyno runs.  Other than the ~20 ft lbs tq
>>>      
>>>
>>more
>>    
>>
>>>the RS2 put out, the graphs are nearly identical, lower and upper.
>>>      
>>>
>>I
>>    
>>
>>>doubt one could tell the difference between the cars when driving, 
>>>perhaps the RS2 is snappier.  Interesting.
>>>
>>>This is actually telling in that when it comes to turbos on an RS2
>>>      
>>>
>>setup
>>    
>>
>>>car, cheaper is better.  In other words, get a #6 and a 50 trim (or 
>>>super 50??), or an Innovative KKK RS2++ BEFORE you get a stock RS2 
>>>because they are cheaper, and perform about the same.  Speculative 
>>>comments, but I'm starting to lean this way.  I think a K24
>>>      
>>>
>>compressor
>>    
>>
>>>housing on my turbo should lower boost thresholds, but I need to put
>>>      
>>>
>>it
>>    
>>
>>>in the car to really be sure...
>>>
>>>Ciao,
>>>
>>>Gary Lewis
>>>
>>>1995.5 S6 Avant, Green/Ecru, RS2 MAF, RS2 Exhaust Manifold, RS2 
>>>Injectors, Custom Turbo (K26 Turbine, Factory K26 Cold side (Audi
>>>      
>>>
>>Works
>>    
>>
>>>'999' P/N) with 50mm intake and custom Innovative Turbo compressor 
>>>wheel), TurboXS Type 25 Bypass Valve, Bilsteins, Eibachs, Big Reds,
>>>      
>>>
>>Spec
>>    
>>
>>>II Clutch.
>>>
>>>
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